Observation: Games are decided by the 10 minute mark

Roonskidelite·1/5/2017, 3:13:11 AM·31 votes·2,285 views

Finished last season in Gold and am currently in mid silver trying to climb back and up. Been off work the last few days so I've been playing more than usual and the one thing I have noticed is that every game is a stomp by one team. Could just be the elo but man it just seems like one champ gets disgustingly fed (I am talking going 6/0 by 10 minutes in lane or something like that) and the game is cooked from there. Whether I win or lose, the games are complete stomps. I cannot recall a single game that felt competitive until the very end. What is up with that? The worst part is we'll be down 20 kills, 3 drags, 4 turrets, and these dudes just wont ff......... this isn't lcs or masters, we ain't coming back buddy.

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Synnx71/5/2017, 3:01:28 PM3 votes

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Finished last season in Gold and am currently in mid silver trying to climb back and up. Been off work the last few days so I've been playing more than usual and the one thing I have noticed is that every game is a stomp by one team. Could just be the elo but man it just seems like one champ gets disgustingly fed (I am talking going 6/0 by 10 minutes in lane or something like that) and the game is cooked from there. Whether I win or lose, the games are complete stomps. I cannot recall a single game that felt competitive until the very end. What is up with that? The worst part is we'll be down 20 kills, 3 drags, 4 turrets, and these dudes just wont ff......... this isn't lcs or masters, we ain't coming back buddy.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/n3f5kn7V-as-a-diamond-silver-elo-is-surprisingly-hard And that was an year ago. I was plat 3 in season 5 , plat 2 in season 4 and i perma banned that account intentionally , i wanted to quit this garbage game. And here i am , bronze 2, tell me how do you carry a Ryze that goes 1/25 as support building full attack speed while feeding his as off while the enemy adc is a smurf or something, against my legit bronze/silver team. Silver/Bronze is plat with entitlement. I don't give a fuck about ranked anymore

http://prntscr.com/drtxr0

Their katarina raged at me because i was " silver scrub" and i wasnt even silver, i was lv 27, and she got rekt so badly. I was 15/5/17 at the end of the game. All my normal matches are like this and i end up almost carrying. Ranked doesnt represent any skill as i notice. I get more challenge in normal games lol

Let the Rank Nazys say otherwise. [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Nami in Bush1/5/2017, 4:59:52 AM2 votes

http://imgur.com/a/DIiNw

avg game length in my rank

kristopher2051/5/2017, 4:17:09 AM2 votes

Being behind 20 kills, a few drakes and turrets is NOT a loss for you. I have seen some absolutely OUTSTANDING comebacks take place. I once lost a game when my team had 70 kills and they had 30.

The DrBonjigollo1/5/2017, 7:50:11 AM2 votes

To my experience the game is already decided when it's already 0-3 in the first 10 minutes and on the rare occasions where it's 3-0 the game is still 50-50.

Roonskidelite1/5/2017, 3:53:24 AM2 votes

It seems like deaths are the main issue ... everybody just dies sooooooooo much. I dont get it. On my two main champs (Lux and Wu) I average 3.7 and 4.4 deaths respectively. Yet my team mates seem to be hanging out in the 7-10 range. At what elo do death rates and specificially deaths before 10 minutes start to decrease?

Ale non è male1/5/2017, 11:54:56 AM1 votes

LMFAO The only people that say that are the ones that:

are either feeding their ass off
or converserly are having good individual games from a mechanical point of view but are playing like headless chicken and keep picking the same wrong fights, to the point that at least a pair of the guys that were previously feeding end up playing better than him... which is even more frustrating for me because come on dude, you were actually be decent, if you just stop being an asshole and start to listen to the pair of not so mechanically good but smart mates you would carry the team to the win

There are very few games that are decided at 10 minute mark actually, especially if the team that is ahead doesn't get a favourable drake rolling

Recon12121/5/2017, 3:39:48 PM1 votes

As someone in mid silver this can't be more true. I find it hard to find a game that feels like skill it deciding the games. One to teo champs get ridiculously fed before 10 mins and at that point I just know the game is over. I don't understand how so many people can feed so much so often. It really discourages me and probably a lot of people from playing.

Moetaro1/5/2017, 5:52:31 PM1 votes

From minute 10 on, the game is nothing more than a long agony for the team that will unavoidable lose.

Weasel Kensei1/5/2017, 6:49:48 PM1 votes

Check this match out.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2391692186/225715083?tab=overview

It looked pretty bad. That Ashe was crap and was always out of position. I would try to protect her but she just kept pushing the lane hard then Thresh would run around/through the minions and hook her. I stun them but she wont run. So when the first tower falls Yi gets a tripple and I see his skills. I had also been watching top. Kayle isnt doing bad against Riven, cause shes bad, but she cant get CS cause Amumu was camping her letting Riven get ahead in gold.

So when bot tower falls, I roam the jg with Yi to keep him topped off with healing and poking some of his camps for faster clears. Then when he goes for ganks, hes taking a Bard with him. This gets Yi strong enough to 1v1 any of them fairly quickly, even Draven. I turn my attention to top and helping Kayle vs Riven doing to Riven what Amumu was doing to Kayle, making a 2v1 threat to pressure the lane. All the while Ashe is bot just holding the lane trying to pick up farm.

Heimer was a trooper the whole match. He saw the match going bad and bought a Zz'rot and placed his turrets near his tower and just HELD MID. That was his game. He changed to meet the issue at hand. That issue was that we were behind and needed to stall to catch up. Eventually I get a Zz'rot too and this stalled the game out more.

At a certain point I land a good Bard ult, let the team get in position, nail the stun, Heimer nails a stun, Kayle and Yi grind their HP taking out Draven and Kayle, maybe Ashe lands a stun we didnt rely on her for much, but when she did something good it helped.

We won that game. At 10 min they were ahead by 3.1K gold. At 19 minutes we have evened it up roughly with them ahead 125 gold. We get ahead some, then they even it up, and by 33 min we end the game ahead by 8.5K gold. Were even still 2 kills behind them, but objective gold racked up so quick.

I know, I know, its just one match.

I have a few others that I could hunt down that are like that. Not everyone knows how to turn a game thats not going their way around. Just happend that we had enough people on one team this match that knew how to put their head down, hold out, get some farm, play safe, wait on team, and dont chase kills that we were able to fight off the super fed Draven and Riven.

The next couple of minutes in this show display what turning the tide should be like:

https://youtu.be/qbKirlDjVyY?t=206

Notice that they just sit... and wait for the opportunity to present itself (just like in Overwatch, proper defense play should be a bit boring if done properly), they dont force it, it and they take victory.

Also this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M0nlqLpqNY

Archaic Mythos1/5/2017, 3:14:27 AM1 votes

Seems like all the 'tweaks' they made to matchmaker has been hard on solo only players

Even soloq can have up to two duos on each team

DB Gaming1/5/2017, 8:44:39 PM1 votes

Have to say I completely agree with the OP. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Season 7 ranked is such a tilt festival. The wins feel just as terrible as the losses. Most of my wins I report someone on the enemy team for basically being a douche making the game unwinnable for their team. Most of my losses there is someone on my team who is making it impossible for us to win.

I'm really sick of the smurfs, on both sides. I do not want one on my team... and I do not want to play against one. Ranked isn't what it should be when people manipulate the system to play against people with less experience than them. If you have two 6th grade basketball teams playing against eachother, but one team 'sneaks' in Michael Jordan... it's no longer a competition...

I just want a competitive game with people at the same skill level as me. Last season there were two unranked players in my gold promos, and as anyone could predict both of the unranked players went 0-5 in lane without any ganks from the enemy jungler. We just got lucky and I was against one of those unranked players, the other was our top laner. I got fed enough off their mid laner as Brand that I was able to carry the game, but it still felt terrible that I was getting into gold and there were unranked players in the game.

I'm more than willing to wait on much longer que times for more even games. I am really tired of seeing smurfs sandbag their new account to low bronze and then you see on OP.GG they have 90+ % winrate and they're shitting all over every game. Like why is this okay in League? If A harlem globetrotter went to shit on some little kids pickup game we'd all hate them for it... but it's just okay in league?

Am I wrong or is ranked suppose to be a competition between equally skilled players? How much toxic behavior could be avoided if ranked actually was this way?

AMYS GRAVE1/5/2017, 3:15:13 AM1 votes

6/0 at 10 minutes? that's it?

GULAG 4 U1/5/2017, 3:29:09 AM1 votes

Not in bronze/silver when people don't group mid to take an open inhib

Genocide Victim1/5/2017, 4:26:22 AM1 votes

Makes it easier to climb though.

King Geffy1/5/2017, 6:20:08 AM1 votes

Disturbingly enough is that I've been never playing ranked since the season changed and it has happened in games a lot, it gets kinda annoying and just killing the fun when i go as something fun like Lane Push Nasus or something.