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Why I can't Get Out Of Bronze.

Xozi·4/3/2017, 11:57:37 AM·5 votes·4,317 views
  1. I'm not great at league.
  2. Client crashes have costed me over 100 LP in remakes.
  3. It doesn't seem to matter how hard I win lane, at least two teammates will flame and feed, then blame eachother.
  4. I don't have fun playing simple champions and prefer my mains, Lissandra , Swain , Zed , and Ahri . (Ok you caught me. Ahri is simple.)
  5. League LOVES to give me people who do things like; Go Ashe top lane against Shyvana because, and I quote, "The bruiser meta is OP." Or playersShaco who like to refuse to gank a specific lane because they didn't get their way, or my personal favorite.

PEOPLE WHO PLAY CHAMPIONS THEY DONT KNOW IN RANKED.

Now, I've learned so much since i started in pre season 6. Including, dont start a fight you cant finish, CS is god, and objectives>kills.

I trashed my MMR in S6. I mean TRASHED IT. 30% win rate I believe. It was gruesome to look at. Ended S6 in infamous Bronze 5, that was 100% my fault. I had no clue how to position, how to farm, hell guys, I made the most obvious mistakes and boy was I toxic. But here, in season 7, I've come a long way. I no longer flame, I will sooner mute the entire team before I say negative crap. I start every game with encouragement for my team, no matter what. I last hit as best as I can most games averaging 4-5 CS/pm. I PRODUCTIVELY roam, when my lane is pushed and my opponent is dead, I ping everything, enemies missing, assist me, on my way, Etcc. I've learned how to fight for objectives, and granted, I'm far from plat or gold, but I know that I shouldn't have this much trouble climbing out of Elo Hell. My overall mastery score is above 200, Multiple mastery 7s and 6s, my #1 being Lissandra with over 250K. (God I love her.)

I have good win rates with my mains. Lissandra stayed above 70% for the longest time. Swain too. My issue seems to be in those pesky autofill matches. Now, I get you need to have a general understanding of each role, and I do. But I also have limited funds, making it hard to have a rune page for every role. I have my stuff set up to maximize my efficiency in the lanes I main. Mid/Top. Getting autofilled to JG, or Supp absolutely kills me. I used to main ADC, got Jhin to 150K. Did very well. Then bot lane became the mage's home early S7. Syndra, Brand, Annie supp everywhere. (God the tilt.)

Overall. I feel like I'm at least high silver. I lead nearly every game in damage, and I've learned its not so much about how many kills you get, but about how many times you die. In order to get out of bronze, I made this post. Hoping some of those bronze players who do off meta, first time picks in ranked, or flame, or any of these other annoyances see it and think,

"Hey maybe I should follow Xozi's lead." (Wishful thinking I know. lol)

I have climbed to B2 and fallen back down so many times. And every game is NOT my teams fault. I've lost lane and games for my team a good many times. I just learn from my mistakes. If anyone has ANY advice, short of play faceroll champs, and suck less. I'm more than open to your input. I love league, and despite the toxicity, I love the community. I just wish ranked/MMR was based on solo performance. Not just strictly W/L.

After all, In bronze, it is maddeningly difficult to babysit tilted teammates and feeders.

(Those of you who smurfed out of bronze, please dont comment about how simple it is to get out. If youre gold, plat diamond, of course its easy. For me? Not so much. So summoners. Help me "git gud." drop advice below and maybe some other bronzie will see it and learn something.

27 Comments

WalkingInACircle4/3/2017, 2:24:47 PM3 votes

If being autofilled is your problem, well, learn a support. I learned Braum for whenever I'm autofilled support.

A 60% winrate will climb.

Arakadia4/3/2017, 12:39:21 PM2 votes

I don't have much to say but if you want you could add me, I main bard so I could help with atuofills in support role and I used to play a lot of your mains, only swain did I ever main but still. I know your mains better than a lot of people, probably not you as I don't main/haven't maines any of them anymore or ever.

But I've literally never raged quit, I'm not toxic, and I'll communicate.

Speeedy4/3/2017, 1:44:04 PM2 votes

As someone who picked up the game slightly after you, Im silver 3 with 92lp right now. You are on the right track to get out of bronze. The biggest thing that I learned to get out of bronze was to farm better (I now farm better than 90% of people in silver too). The steps that I did was go into a custom game alone and just practice farming. My goal was 50 cs at 10 min, then 60, then 70, then 80, then 90 and finally 100. Once you can do that fairly consistently do it against an intermediate bot. Against the bot you want to learn how to trade damage favorably while still not missing cs. Once I got to the point of being able to kill the bot 3-4 times while having 75+ cs I started to play norms to learn my champion pool very well. Then I moved into ranked, I went from b5 to silver 5. Then this year I started in b5 again and have been on a slow and steady climb out. I win by just out item the opponent. Also try to back with 1300-1700 gold. Any more you are losing your item power spike you are getting, any less you will not have a good buy. Most expensive items, Zeal, BF sword, needlessly large rod all cost ~1300.

Now for the hard stuff in bronze is to get teams to not be greedy. If you win a fight and get 3 kills then take a tower. Teams tend to stay and try and get more at half health or less but then when they respawn they come and you fight again and you lose. Try to tell them to back off. I did this by finding a duo partner and both of us just left which made them leave.

Once you get all that learn how to manage waves and how to freeze them. That is what I learned in silver and have been climbing ever since I got that down.

franchise76764/3/2017, 12:00:08 PM2 votes

you're just plain not good enough

WitchQueen Annie4/3/2017, 3:28:54 PM2 votes

Swain is good but you should try playing Vladimir, basically a more insanely high damage version of Swain... you can land TONS of empowered Transfusions in lane and get fed in Bronze because people don't get how he works. If you take Thunderlords and get familiar with his damage (and Flash/Ghost plays in lane), you can get a few kills every game in lane. Vladimir with a few kills in lane can solo carry really hard if you then take the lead to the bot lane.

The only hard part about him is learning how to aim Tides of Blood (you walk up to the enemy while side-stepping and follow them while spamming it)

But once you have 3-4 items and you are ahead, you can 1 vs 3/4 their whole team.

item 3001 or item 3157, item 3158 , item 3065 (build item 3067 and complete the full item later if you want more damage first), item 3285 , item 3089, item 3135

He's really fun and not too easy to play (but easy enough).

Thrëat4/3/2017, 2:53:41 PM1 votes

You have about a 50% winrate after over 100 games. Win rate goes based off last season. You are about 3% better than you were last season. If you were high silver you'd climb to at least low silver without trying. Get over yourself and realize you are not as good as you think. You are literally in the easiest elo to solo carry out of. Back when I was a gold newbie I was able to 1v5 hard carry a bronze game, it's like going vs bots.

Maximum Morde4/3/2017, 2:55:03 PM1 votes

Becuz ur bronze Lyfe

TuzlakEmir12310/30/2017, 8:53:37 PM1 votes

I dont know what is your problem guys. I bought this account, was in B5 with 0 lp. Out of 20 ranked games i played i lost only one. I prefer playing Zed and Darius.

A little tip for all of you who cant get out of Bronze. Farm is key to Items, Items are key to victory.Outfarm your opponent and win your lane, expect no ganks in bronze, from time to time take enemy Raptors if youre mid lane. Dont play duo lanes. Play top, mid or jng. And thats how you easily win your games and solo carry.

Thrëat4/4/2017, 11:56:47 PM1 votes

Oh yea dude, you have a 62% win rate with swain climbing from B5 to B3 and then dropping back down to B4, you are right, you are a fucking god, no clue how a god like you is hard stuck in low bronze.

WitchQueen Annie4/5/2017, 12:29:05 AM1 votes

Just Duo. Find someone around your MMR who has a high mechanical KDA and decent game sense, add them and work together. Move on to someone else if its not working (no hard feelings), we're all "professionals" just trying to climb.

If you Duo and do it well, you can take over 2/5 of your team by default and you only have 3 random players to worry about. Its much better odds than going 1/5. Also, you can take over 2 important lanes (I suggest Mid and Bot or Mid/JG).

If you do it you should find it much more manageable.

Also, in case you find it "dishonourable," just keep in mind that pretty much EVERY game now has 1 duo on each team. If you are not the one in a Duo someone else is... and you may well have a pair of morons dictating how you play. You don't want that. You want to take control of your own game.

Thrëat4/7/2017, 2:58:03 AM1 votes

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Hallbuster4/7/2017, 3:52:30 AM1 votes

I'm in bronze 2, too, pun not intended. Add me and we can climb together. I play simple champions so you don't have to, like Annie.

P.S I have a 84% win-rate. I had a few latency issues for the games I didn't do so well on.

MysticDemonX10/30/2017, 7:46:35 AM1 votes

Just play chogath jg Broken champ got me from b5 to s2 And still climbing

Darth West4/3/2017, 12:13:33 PM1 votes

Dude.. I use Swain on every smurf account I have and get Silver within a day max.. You just need to work on your skills man. Swain is plenty good enough to carry a game if you master him. o.o ESPECIALLY In bronze.