Didn't RIOT lower the snowball potential in games?

Cryptidian·9/2/2015, 9:33:36 AM·7 votes·1,024 views

Do you feel that snowballing was lowered/removed from the game, like the developers said it would be? I don't see it, tbh. In the last 3-5 games, 1 team fight or 1-2 kills in a lane basically decided who's gonna win the lane/game. And I notice that with top lane the most, 1 kill can, in most match ups, decide who wins the lane and ultimately snowball out of control. I know the jungler is supposed to prevent that, but, you cannot prevent snowballing, like the developers said you could. I really don't think it was lowered, a lot of champions gain a huge advantage if they get the first kill in lane and high Gold+ players pretty much know when they have the upper hand and abuse that into oblivion.

What do you people think about snowballing and how large it is in games?

9 Comments

Lost In Time9/2/2015, 10:45:27 AM6 votes

There used to be a time where whoever got FB top lane would win 80% of the time.

Now, you can lose horribly for 40 minutes, win a lucky fight and take the win.

Massive difference.

Bronze Rumble9/2/2015, 4:35:05 PM4 votes

top lane has always been like this and I think its mostly because people are not abusing the kill advantage they have, but the level advantage they have. A level advantage at top lane is big deal compared to the mid lane. When I'm at top lane and I have a level on anyone, I will not let you cs unless u want to fight for it. A level advantage gives the enemy laner more base stats, more hp, another point in one of your abilities, even champions like riven and irelia have to respect your damage when you have a level advantage.

Egillion9/2/2015, 5:41:19 PM3 votes

That's not even close to the amout of snow ball we had back in season 2 or 3.

Snow ball does still exist however but it's not as hard as it used to be. It is slower and the difference betwen a player that died in lane and the player who killed him is very low right now. In top lane if you die, you can TP back to lane with 5 potions and you missed 0 CS, lost 0 XP. So basically you can have a lot of lane control even in a tough match up.

I'd call it "** Slow ball **" now....

It means what it actually is : a huge ball of snow, it is very hard to stop it but it takes a long time for it to be effective and harm. The advantage is there, and it's very hard to undo it or to fight against it. It will give you an edge for a long time and maybe last the entire game. But you haven't won yet and you will have to confirm that lead in mid-late game if you want to take over the game.

" Snow ball " is a lot more explosive and dynamic advantage that gives you instant success in every thing. Season 2 or 3 was snow bally, season 4 and 5 are slow paced : Slow ball. Now if you gain an advantage it is going ot be a long term benefit. In the past (s2 and s3) if you gained a lead, you could probably shut down the enemy in 20-25 minutes and win the whole game. It was very fast and very punishing. Now the game is slow and there is more room for mistakes. However if you are ahead, it takes a lot more efforts to finish the game now and win.

However as a season 1 veteran, I can forsee the outcome of a game in silver/gold Elo right from the start. I just judge the situation when we are 10 minutes in and it tells a lot about the game and its possible outcome. And the truth is that it is very hard to undo this situation and to turn the game into something more in you favor when you are behind. Silver and low gold players don't know how to come back from this, they don't know how "to close" a game and win properly either...

Blastumz9/2/2015, 9:37:22 AM2 votes

they did but then they added a handful of op champions and reworked a bunch of champions to make them op take those champions and put them on the same team and its about a tier difference give them a slight early lead and it is over - ish

Jamaree9/2/2015, 9:39:21 AM2 votes

Nothing can really be done to stop that, you can only stop something like that so much but at the end of the day, once you die, you are going to fall behind, as you should though so fair enough.

The Bearded Bard9/2/2015, 5:14:50 PM1 votes

Garen is the anti snowballer

Jefftiffy9/2/2015, 5:24:30 PM1 votes

To be fair they gave up the anti-snowballing because it was making games last an average of 45+ minutes and with people like Nasus that is a very bad thing to promote.

Lugg9/2/2015, 4:49:15 PM1 votes

The Riot "nerf" to snowballing was as big a joke as the last Ahri "nerf". There are still champs that snowball off one kill. Talon Katarina Riven

You can give up 1 kill simply due to a lag spike. Champs shouldn't snowball near as fast as they do right now.