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I'd really like to see Ascension become permanent, like a new Dominion queue.

Saint Creazil·10/16/2017, 6:41:42 PM·78 votes·2,258 views

So I'm almost entirely a RGM and ARAM player nowadays. I'm just not a huge fan of SR currently (though here's hoping the new season changes that), but the other modes can be a lot of fun. My personal favorite is Ascension, and I feel like that's a pretty common opinion even if some people hate it. And I think it is the kind of map that can support a permanent spot on the queue list.

It doesn't devolve into a toxic meta like URF did, it's not a VS AI mode, its not a limited champ pool like Singularity, Invasion, Blood Moon, etc. It's an all pick slugfest with some objective control. You even get to see some champions you normally wouldn't, or play with builds that aren't meta.

Now, I'm not sure what RGMs have the most players or anything, but I feel like it's at least fairly popular and I'd really love to see it come back! Hopefully for longer, and that way RIOT can keep rotating the more gimmicky modes (explanation below)

The other modes are fun, neat ideas for a game or two, but that's usually it. I don't know anyone that wants to play more than a game or two of something like Singularity (sorry to pick on it, but it's by far my least favorite mode since I like choices in both champions and items). But something like Ascension has me playing for hours when it's up. There's so many champions and builds to do, it's just a really well made game mode in my opinion.

So what are people's opinions on Ascension and the RGMs as a whole? What's good, what's bad, can any mode become permanent? I'd love to see some opinions on them (especially Rioters if you'd care to chime in).

48 Comments

Minarde10/16/2017, 7:32:22 PM17 votes

It'd be a strange feeling to see Dominion essentially be replaced by a shallower version of itself.

Realistically, what niche would Ascension have? SR gets the lion's share of everything, so all the rest of the maps have to fight for the scraps. Treeline has the competitive appeal (due to ranked), and ARAM has the casual appeal (due to low barrier to entry). Meanwhile, Dominion died because it was a competitive mode (based on gameplay) aimed at casuals (based on lack of ranked). Ascension would presumably aim for the casual audience, but that has it clash with ARAM for playerbase and Riot resources.

Fack you Brad10/16/2017, 7:51:48 PM13 votes

Ascension is one of the game modes that I frequently play whenever it is up because of the fact that it offers constant teamfighting/picking/duels without the buildup that Summoner's Rift has and without the confined singular lane map space nor the random aspect that Howling Abyss presents.

Ascension is actually paced nicely in terms of game duration, not as long as summoner's rift and not as variable as ARAM can be and also metas are not enforced. Also, objective-wise it is pretty simple. You cap the crystals or go for the Ascended bonus and focus more on the clashing.

OurLestrade10/16/2017, 6:44:47 PM8 votes

Ascension/Dominion are still my favourite game modes, much more lively and exciting, and on top it lets you try out new strategies and champions that you'd never see in SR. Doubt they'll ever move it out of an occasional RGM thing though, what with them dumping Dominion even when it had a small but dedicated competitive community.

iDemacia10/16/2017, 11:19:00 PM6 votes

It doesn't devolve into a toxic meta like URF? Maybe. Maybe not.

You may have missed it but by the end of last Ascension people were starting to do this thing where they built full tank on some already tanky champs and then held the game hostage by the enemy team not being able to kill them and they would stop the little pylon (not sure what they're called) grabbing with their sunfire capes so they weren't killing the enemy team either. While it wasn't the meta I could see more people doing something like that and that is imo a lot more toxic than anything I encountered in URF.

Big Black Croc10/16/2017, 8:04:56 PM5 votes

Tbh all game modes should be permanent to play whenever the hell you want. I don't see the reason to limit people from playing a gamemode.

ChiTenshi10/16/2017, 9:44:01 PM5 votes

If I can play ‘Hide and Seek’ on it, sure.

Elkington VI10/16/2017, 7:58:29 PM5 votes

Ascension is the only gamemode where you can pick nearly anyone to some success. I'm so tired of playing 3v3 and its snowbally/unforgiving nature, where most games are won at champ select.

All the other RGMs are too rigid in comparison.

PaffWasTaken10/17/2017, 1:28:19 PM4 votes

If we include another gamemode to be availlable full time, it needs to be one that stays interesting even after a few games, which is not the case for Ascension at all in I would say 90% of the players. Summoner's rift is the most popular map, dominion is there for people enjoying shorter games with fewer people than in classics, and ARAM stays interesting by being completely random and almost entirely meta-proof. Ascension? You've already seen everything you have to see in it by playing 3 games in a row... As of today's roster of limited gamemodes, theres none of them at all that are worthy to be fully added (even so, nexus siege would be a better option than Ascension by far IMO) if we follow criterias like the seriousness of it, the repetitiveness, the general fun and its durability. I'm a full time ARAM player and I flee SR like the black plague, so I believe Riot should put more efforts on ARAM and its problems instead of thinking about preparing and balancing ANOTHER gamemode so it can be played full-time. Riot already have trouble taking care of the classic SR gamemode and they almost solely care about this one, I don't want to make it even worse

PaladinNO10/17/2017, 4:40:05 AM4 votes

If they put Ascension as a permanent mode, there are some reverts that needs to be done.

First off, the brush right below Xerath needs to come come back. It made for setting up some great ambushes whenever the opposite team made a move for him. ...It also made for setting the same ambushes the other way around, but we'll gloss over that.

Secondly, killing Xerath should be the old "last-hit gets the buff", instead of the current "last man standing". Only time I ever saw Nunu in this mode. Or in fact only time I ever saw Nunu. Period. So that needs to come back. For those who didn't know, Nunu's...what is it, Q? Could "eat" Xerath as any minion or jungle creep. Also, and I don't know if this is still possible, but Azir could use his passive where Xerath used to be, and place a turret there. Not at all intended, I presume, but outright hilarious to watch!

Almighty10/16/2017, 10:10:16 PM4 votes

Did you forget the whole reason Dominion got removed? Everyone got bored of it and so Riot stopped updating and balancing it. So it became a ghost town for new players and bot accounts.

If Ascension or any other Featured Game Mode become permanent they will suffer the same fate. So i'd rather they keep it rotating. Also, Ascension becomes very redundant once people figure out who are the strongest picks for it and you start to see the same champions every game.

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Daddy Ants10/17/2017, 2:24:39 PM3 votes

I miss the old Dominion

420 grams10/17/2017, 3:00:30 AM2 votes

New players also can learn better on dominion because one gets to their build faster, it teaches objective control, team cordnation, easy to play multiple games in a short time, and it's a simple map.

Bob the Toastr10/16/2017, 7:50:51 PM2 votes

I'm pretty sure not as many people agree with you as you think they do. Also, did you ever see the cancerous bami's cinder/never get a kill strategy last time?

Champion Skin10/16/2017, 8:46:38 PM2 votes

The nice things about Ascension is that there isn't any snowballing since everyone is always at the same amount of gold and exp And there is also no early game of just sitting around farming (like SR) or being a melee champion in ARAM where you sometimes only have 2 options.... going all-in or just sitting back and avoiding/eating poke (and if your team is weaker in an all out fight then you basically only have one option)

Wolvahulk10/16/2017, 9:23:15 PM2 votes

Same. I love ascension and btw BRING BACK ONE FOR ALL :C [sg-soraka]

DariusDemiurge10/16/2017, 11:10:26 PM2 votes

I like Ascension. Currently the best alternate mode we have. It is quick, fun, and not filled with tedious bullcrap. It is as close as we are going to get to a team death match. A lot of champs are useful on it. It is overall just a great mode.

But if we made it permanent it might suffer the same fate Dominion did.

koshkyra10/17/2017, 2:52:51 AM2 votes

I want poro king so i can choose my champion on the aram map

Idc about the king and snowball part

Oh and bring ofa back lmao

Sire Hippington10/17/2017, 4:02:57 AM2 votes

I'd prefer simply getting back dominion, but asecention would be better than nothing, is atleast the closest relative to dominion amongst the current modes

The DrBonjigollo10/17/2017, 6:15:06 AM2 votes

I'd like if they updated the map. Sure you don't see much but it's supposed to be in Shurima so make it look Shuriman pls.

naveenrenold10/17/2017, 11:21:36 AM1 votes

i didnt read the post but i think blood moon is cool

XxDRAGONsAK47xX10/17/2017, 12:08:36 PM1 votes

This is my favorite mode

nGio10/17/2017, 10:43:16 AM1 votes

Ascension is okay, but for me personally, it's still behind URF, Hexakill, and One For All when it comes to replay value. Say what you will about AR URF, but for the entire 2 weeks it was out, the LOWEST that I saw my friends list at was 21. Since AR URF left a few months ago, the MOST online at once were 6.

When URF/OFA/Hex are up, I know because of the text messages I'm getting from rl friends. A friends list that in 3 months can barely break 25% of URF's lowest night, and actually getting text hype is serious shit. Since URF left, I have played more SC2 custom games than League games, as I look and laugh at the shitfest of bad RGMs since URF was last here.

League and mobas were born of custom games, so I don't understand the stupidity of hiding incredible custom games in a valut somewhere. If Blizzard would have policed custom games, and left DoTA on a once a year rotation, we probably wouldn't even have mobas right now. Riot should make several of the RGMs permanent, and let players decide what they like. It would be nice to have an active friends list again, and look forward to a nightly choice of URF, OFA, Hex, Ascension.

Need Gold 4 Tent10/17/2017, 6:16:28 AM1 votes

And like dominion, they'll decide one day that it's filled with nothing else but bots so they'll remove it for good.

BlakexEkalb10/17/2017, 2:56:39 PM1 votes

I'd say get rid of Twisted Treeline if that were the case (thought that would never happen since Riot usually ignores everyone's suggestions). Since almost NOBODY play the game mode, it would be better to just trash it entirely.

Xenomancers10/17/2017, 9:18:25 PM1 votes

I really like ascension - In fact I wish they would make a ranked Que for it and it be available to play at all times.

TheMoralSupport10/17/2017, 9:40:48 PM1 votes

Ah, my mighty Rakan item 3152 item 3100 item 3504 . I want ascension now :(