There's a new Riven thread on here that claims she's overpowered, let's disprove this with facts

melior sum·2/20/2019, 11:50:42 PM·17 votes·3,097 views

Let's dive in and disprove this.

Let's look at the basica principle of argument for this matter, her win rate.

https://na.op.gg/champion/riven/statistics/top

WARNING: OP.GG data is only for KOREA

On OP.GG she is sporting a 50.7% win rate with an 8% pick rate, which is up quarterly from the average 47-48.5% because of spear of shojin giving her access to her abilities more often, as a Riven player I love this item but at the same time I hate it because it gave worse Rivens a boost.

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Riven/

On lolalytics, she is sporting a 49.9% win rate with a 13.44% pick rate, note that this is a world wide win rate, taking in to account regions with much higher win rates and regions with much lower win rates.

Now let's examine patch history

https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Riven

If you look at balance changes for Riven, she has received no damage increases in her kit since patch 7.24 and before that patch 7.22 with base stat boosts. The changes were done in light of runes reforged and to be balanced between other bruisers who received similar buffs at the same time. Also, the buffs to her abilities were not game breaking for her. The last time her ultimate was touched, it was buffed, that was back in 6.22, so it's been a long while since Riven has been given any buffs.

The reason why Riven feels stronger than average, is two simple reasons

  1. Spear of shojin got introduced

  2. All the meta picks got nerfed that were keeping her at bay

She has many matchups she struggles in, in fact, she struggles in a majority of matchups unless you have extensive knowledge of how to go about the matchup through Rivens kit. Let's look at a popular matchup for this sake, Riven Vs. Darius

For someone who has 100 games on Riven, this matchup might seem daunting and unwinnable.

However, for a Riven with 700-1000 games, the matchup is quite easy and abusable in Rivens favor when played properly, and even then, the margin for error on Rivens end is extremely small, as if she messes up, she will lose the lane terribly hard.

The notion that Riven is broken or over powered is false, the fundamental fact is that many people haven't played against a solid "good" Riven, and when they do, they claim that the champion is broken because they don't know how to play the matchup against an experienced player.

The issue that people don't understand is that this goes for anyone. I'll give another example, the Riven Vs. Jax matchup. This matchup is suppose to be Riven favored when played properly, and for me it is, I beat 95% of Jax players, however, the few times I've gone up against TF blade on his Jax, I get completed smashed because he takes Jax to the limits farther than I can take Riven to her limits. Do I cry and say Jax is broken? No, I simply got outplayed and I need to get better at the matchup because I am suppose to win it.

tldr: Get better at the game, and you'll realize how easily beatable most Rivens are, and even at higher MMRs (Diamond 3+), most Rivens don't know the extent of the champion unless there name is Adrian Riven, Dekar, or Viper.

Also yes, this is a smurf account.

Edit: Also, I forgot to add in, a few weeks ago there was a thread on Hashinshins twitter about the state of Riven and how he thought she was broken. A rioter hit him with facts and logic about the learned curve comparing Jax and Riven. If anyone has actually played Riven, you know that you have to actually practice the champion and play insane amounts of games to play matchups multiple times because she is completely user and skill dependent, Vs. say an Urgot who plays flavor of the month and has a 65% win rate in 24 games because the champion is strong on that patch.

Edit 2: Keep crying :), Riot won't touch Riven unless she has a 55-57% win rate constantly for 2-3 patches and a 10%+ play rate.

30 Comments

Saezio2/20/2019, 11:59:14 PM10 votes

So, riven just happens to be the best toplaner to play at Masters+ elo while not being stronger than she should?

Sleep On Stream2/20/2019, 11:53:13 PM6 votes

well said ! daruis and jax and urgot can be a pain if played incorrect

Mordepool2/21/2019, 12:02:02 AM5 votes

Still waiting for actual facts.

KVbqbFsC8e2/21/2019, 12:20:26 AM2 votes

I'm not going to comment on whether Riven is OP or not, but one thing you should know is that facts do not matter to this board.

Nhifu2/21/2019, 12:58:00 AM2 votes

Do people not know winrates literally dictate jack shit for league? Other than the fact that the 9 other picks could be trolls..

It's like Starcraft 2's issue with their stupid design team when they thought blobbing units and attack moving them together = balance.

kingDeDeDarius2/21/2019, 4:50:23 AM1 votes

You proved the point that riven is busted. Maybe not in every player's hands, but people with experience can easily counter her supposed counters because she can easily counter her own counterplay. She had far more options than the average champ.

Saianna2/21/2019, 6:48:28 AM1 votes

her OPness comes from the fact she scales with AD only, even her shield. She's AOE type, very mobile and versatile and then we have the nasty AA-cancelling that was supposedly a "feature".

At no point since she was made was she really weak. Something like Lee. Either at the very top, or just very close.

She does take alot of skill, but once someone is good with her, she's like 1man army.