Current State of Zac

arham23·10/27/2016, 1:46:12 AM·4 votes·514 views

So as we all know Zac recently got a "nerf" going into patch 6.21 as opponents can now see his E's landing area. While Zac's game play before this was definitely not healthy (in fact it had many of the same problems that stealth had, due to his E), he is suffering quite a bit as a result of this nerf. While I'm certainly not advocating for an undoing of this change, I would like to propose a solution that would both add counter play to and help Zac's kit. I believe that it would be beneficial for Zac's E to have a slight delay before the marker for the landing radius appears, much like how Ekko's W only shows up 1 second prior to the execution of the ability. This would allow Zac to surprise slow opponents while still rewarding those who are fast enough to react to the sudden threat. I believe that this will allow for some more healthy game play on both sides, tell me what you guys think - I'm curious.

6 Comments

Rivuo10/27/2016, 1:50:46 AM1 votes

lol.....................................

nm101010/27/2016, 12:31:08 PM1 votes

Pretty sure that is how it was before, the shadow appeared when you could see him. There are also 3 huge zac counters off the top of my head that nobody is picking into him so I really don't think he needed any changes at all personally.

Meep Man10/27/2016, 1:10:19 PM1 votes

Pretty sure it already has a slight delay unless I am mistaken

CLARITY Warning indicator and shadow particles now show up 0.75 seconds before Zac lands. If his travel duration is shorter than that, they appear immediately.

flyingbaklava10/27/2016, 3:44:05 PM1 votes

As a Zac main, I feel like Riot needs to nerf him some more. Not because he is OP, there is already plenty of counterplay to his kit, but so I can play him again. The Zac ban rate has not dropped and it seriously feels like he is getting banned 50% of the time in Diamond, which makes no sense since people tend to react fast enough to dodge/interrupt elastic slingshots even before the red ring was added to it.

Oh, and like the other posters said, there already is a delay. Elastic Slingshot takes over a second to travel at max range so the .75 second indicator is a delay.

Asura Gonza10/27/2016, 4:06:24 PM1 votes

Zac is REALLY strong.

Once he has engaged, good luck bringh¡ing him down without having 3 players focus him. Ig nore him and he will create apocalypsis.

MEGLADOUCHE10/31/2016, 7:31:40 PM1 votes

They ruined him. Like Pantheon, you can now only hit his E (Pantheons Ult) against an extremely low-skill or otherwise cc'd opponent. What was once the core of his kit has been completely denied at any reasonable skill level of play.

Sure he is still tanky as hell and sure Pantheon can still all-in with the best of them, but both champions lost most of their unique quality with the mind numbing nerfs they received.