Moonflair Spellblade

RelentlessGrit·10/25/2014, 2:46:34 PM·13 votes·1,947 views

I was just noticing item 3170 Moonflair Spellblade is a rather nice item 3172 Zephyr for both tanks and AP champs. I was wondering why this is not available on the rift? I think this would be an excellent addition to a lot of builds and leaves another option for tenacity besides item 3111 and the item 3172 (considering item 3207 lost its tenacity).

If it was removed prior, I wouldn't mind hearing the reason, but I see no reason why it should be kept off the rift. Or perhaps a similar item introduced?

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Darkwind10/25/2014, 2:59:50 PM5 votes

No, and here's why: It would be entirely OP. a build like this would be way too strong: item 3020 item 3170item 3116 item 3089 item 3135 item 3128

you here have tenacity, 400 hp, 50 armor, 50 mr, mpen, 600 ap. you're highly tanky, high damage, resistant to cc. only downside is no zhonya active- but you could subsitute it for dfg and have even more armor. not to mention an ap tank build-

item 3020 item 3170 item 3027 item 3157 item 3001 item 3116

some item stat combinations are ok on a map like TT or crystal scar, but wouldn't be ok on the rift. same thing's true the other way around

TeemoHunter133710/25/2014, 4:41:04 PM5 votes

I was just noticing item 3170 Moonflair Spellblade is a rather nice item 3172 Zephyr for both tanks and AP champs. I was wondering why this is not available on the rift? I think this would be an excellent addition to a lot of builds and leaves another option for tenacity besides item 3111 and the item 3172 (considering item 3207 lost its tenacity).

If it was removed prior, I wouldn't mind hearing the reason, but I see no reason why it should be kept off the rift. Or perhaps a similar item introduced?

sure lets buff amumu,alistar,maokai,warwick,ryze,rammus,vladimir,nasus,elise,leona,singed.

Lord Dusteon10/25/2014, 2:56:50 PM4 votes

Moonflair also provides a good amount of AP and BOTH defensive stats, along with the tenacity. It makes it kinda a perfect AP tank item by itself.

Jungle Lux God10/25/2014, 7:38:45 PM2 votes

Moonflair Spellblade is designed for AP champs on a map where AP champs are not very strong. Adding it to Summoner's Rift in its current form would be too strong in its current state, particularly on tanky AP builds.

67chrome10/25/2014, 8:28:14 PM2 votes

I was wondering why this is not available on the rift? I think this would be an excellent addition ...

The rule of thumb for alternate map items is they'd be OP in Rift.


There purpose, more often than not, is to help out an archetype that's struggling in the alternate map modes.

For Twisted Treelines and Dominion, the maps favor 1v1 duels and skirmishes considerably more than 5v5 team-fights and sieges. As such, fighters and assassins, and mid-game champions, where totally wrecking face - and poor 1v1/solid 5v5 champions like mages and marskman, often late-game, where being completly destroyed. Hence:

item 3090 item 3188 item 3170 item 3122

Wogglet's pushes late-game champion power-spikes significantly forward by offering a item 3157 + item 3089 power spike in one go, item 3122 allows marksman to transition smoothly into IE without needing the 15 minute weak-point to offset their safe farming in Rift, and item 3188 was just flat out the most broken thing ever, and item 3170 allows otherwise semi-tanky, ~item 3027 reliant mages to be more relevant sooner.


item 2051 item 3112 For Howling abyss, it's no mystery melee champions start at a pretty big dissadvantage, and poke is very dominant for the first half of the game. As such, there's 2 pretty solid regen/anti-poke items avalible that allow melee to circumvent this problem. Or even a few ranged toons that can afford to invest a bit in anti-poke defenses.

Kuroi8610/25/2014, 11:56:49 PM2 votes

Because Taric.

Kingsgrave10/26/2014, 2:47:10 AM1 votes

That item would be a first rush on a lot of APs that go top lane and it would make them even more autowin than before. Can you imagine Akali rushing Zhonya + Moon? Fuck me man.

balbraaksel10/25/2014, 7:35:26 PM1 votes

With that I think you'd get tanks with: Ninja Tabi Boots Rod of Ages Moonflair Spellblade Liandry's Torment Void Staff Guardian Angel

With a build like that you have everything.

Sailor Mint10/25/2014, 7:49:04 PM1 votes

It exists because casters are weaker than Bruisers on smaller maps.

If they added it to SR, they'd have to somehow restrict it so tanks wouldn't buy it.