Restrict The Usage Of Recently Released Champions In Ranked

demoted to iron·10/31/2018, 3:44:43 AM·42 votes·14,364 views

In light of a new champion being released soon, I wanted to make this post. People taking a newly released/reworked champion straight into ranked without practice, leading to feeding and causing 4 other people to lose LP, happens way too often. I think once a new champion/rework comes out, Riot should make it so you can't play that champion in ranked until a week after it's release. It would help alleviate this issue and save people a lot of suffering. If you ban it because someone hovers, you run the risk they troll/int, not to mention nobody wants to waste a ban on a champion to prevent their teammate from feeding.

72 Comments

zaire9010/31/2018, 5:43:04 AM24 votes

Honestly feel like it should be for 2 weeks but during this time period the champ cant be banned in norms.

Environmentalist10/31/2018, 3:57:02 AM16 votes

Agreed! You wanna practice a champ, do it in norms.

Phiddy Cent10/31/2018, 6:16:31 AM9 votes

It also gives time to tune the champ.

Woodakoodashooda10/31/2018, 9:09:55 AM9 votes

Actually, this wouldn't resolve the problem of players taking ANY given champion they've no experience with into a ranked match. What should happen is for players to have a minimum mastery 3 on an owned champion to take it into ranked play. While mastery is no indication of a player's skill with a champion it does help indicate that the player has at least enough experience with a champion that they SHOULD understand its fundamental mechanics at the very least.

Séance10/31/2018, 4:34:28 AM9 votes

I would like to point out that when a new champion comes, it is possible some of us have been playing it for weeks on the PBE.

BraveCapuccino10/31/2018, 11:43:39 AM3 votes

If you want to be consistent you should forbid anyone to play a champ in ranked if he doesn't have an X number of games in normals with said champ. Because you could first time anyone in ranked really, it doesn't only apply to new champs.

JuicySamé10/31/2018, 7:33:32 AM3 votes

I disagree with the one week "ban". But its true that unexperienced players ruin games, first/second time picking champions. I feel like you should have 3-5 games in normals before you are allowed to take a champ to ranked. ANY CHAMP.

But this is kind of hard to do, with champions having different difficulty. For example, I would rather have a garen top who have played 10 games with garen, then a yasuo who has played 15 games.

demoted to iron11/1/2018, 1:42:54 AM2 votes

Note: only reason I didn't mention mastery locking is because for most champs I think you only really need a few games on them before you can take them into ranked fairly safely.

I could be wrong/biased since I've been playing for 4ish years and know the basics of just about every champ

Salron10/31/2018, 10:51:07 AM2 votes

Riot has stated in the past they use ranked data to balance champions If a champion isn't allowed into ranked for 2 weeks they won't have anything to go off of for the next 2 weeks

Janakin10/31/2018, 2:08:17 PM1 votes

How does that differ from picking a champion that was released ages ago? A better approach would be to reset the mastery points on the champion after it gets reworked, and allow picking only mastery 4+ champions in ranked.

Carnicore10/31/2018, 9:42:08 PM1 votes

This will never happen because Riot needs data from ranked to judge the balance of the champion. Normals don't cut it.

Pika Fox11/1/2018, 12:48:10 AM1 votes

No.

some people only play ranked, so theyll first time it anyway one week later. Solves nothing.
putting any gameplay restriction on champions to play in ranked restricts options if something gets banned or playing into certain picks.
1 game means literally nothing.
people can pick whoever and whatever they want. The champion exists and is a valid option.

Ameliea10/31/2018, 12:18:59 PM1 votes

Such a rule would imply that picking a champ automatically makes the person a liabilty to their team. It will never be implemented because it is nonsense

A new champion has to be tested out in a competetive environment, banning it from ranked for 2 weeks, means you basically just moved his release 2 weeks up, people will not spam normals to practice a new champ

But condsider the following

For example you yourself have a 41% winrate on Thresh across 60 games, meaning that you are inexperienced with this champ and are negativly impacting games you play, just by picking by this champion. You on this champion will do about as good as people playing a new champion, who will usually hover around a 40% winrate after being released. Should you also be restricted from playing Thresh until you have practiced more? I dont think so, you should be able to play what you want to get better.

Just making sure you see the hypocrisy in your proposal