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Twisted Fate : Making him more luck based

SKT T1 Cashe·1/2/2015, 6:30:43 AM·2 votes·1,006 views

I figured sense that Twisted Fate is a luck based champion, he should require more.... luck. The way I see it, he doesn't have much "luck" around his skills at all.

I propose that he should get some changes on his skills. I do feel his other skills might need a small change but I don't really know what to add for the Q and R. Maybe the W just needs a small change, but I would love it if I can get some input on this as well.

Last thing I want is this getting a down vote without reason. So lets discuss how Twisted Fate could be a little bit more healthy, or maybe not at all. After all, these are all my opinions on Twisted Fate and I just feel he should be more based around luck and the only thing that requires "luck" is his passive.

[Q] Wild Card Twisted Fate throws three cards, dealing damage to each enemy unit they pass through.

[Solution] ???

[W] Pick a Card Twisted Fate chooses a magic card from his deck, and uses that for his next attack, causing bonus effects.

[Solution] Why not make it so it's random what card he gets? It seems way to easy to get the card you want because all it does it cycle through 3 cards slowly and boom, you get the exact card you want.

[E] Stacked Deck Every 4 attacks, Twisted Fate deals bonus damage. In addition, his Attack Speed is increased.

[Solution] Seems kinda silly for a mage to get attack speed and extra damage to a basic attack based on his AP. I do want it to stay as a passive but maybe change it to something different? Again, input on this please.

[R] Destiny Twisted Fate predicts the fortunes of his foes, revealing all enemy champions and enabling the use of Gate, which teleports Twisted Fate to any target location in 1.5 seconds.

[Solution] ???

9 Comments

bwooday1/2/2015, 7:19:09 AM4 votes

Making his W random would make him useless. The only way you could make him a more of a luck based champion while still having him be a viable champ would be to change the passive to something else on his E.

Saevum1/2/2015, 11:52:45 AM1 votes

Make Q interact with W:

Based on the card picked by W (blue, red, yellow) Q could borrow the effects while sacrificing all damage. So basically, you just borrow the effect and only that. The effect 'window' for using this interaction would be as long as W is not yet thrown. However, in exchange for this W interaction, W will be on cooldown as soon as Q is used (with the borrowed powers). So basically, you cannot W after using the borrowed powers of W for the Q shot.

There's still the W + Q combo available intact.

Edit: Forgot to state that the Q + W interaction (when you throw the skill shot) consume the projectile on the first target it hits. So those, single projectiles cannot"pass tru" several enemies each.

TehNACHO1/2/2015, 11:52:58 AM1 votes

You know how Wild Card fires randomly colored cards?

Make that play into the outcome.

Taliach1/2/2015, 12:15:08 PM1 votes

Honestly, I don't see much of a point changing Twisted fate really even if he comes across as a "luck" based champion. This is just coming from someone who enjoys playing Twisted fate to death but changing his kit to being luck based would make him useless.

Changing his Wild cards to add CC depending on what he throws would make it kind of over powered in my opinion, since it is already 3 possible damage outputs in one ability. Also even if you did, he could (potentially) stun multiple targets giving him way to much power as it is o_o"

His W, is kind of luck based in a sense, as you can miss the card you want, but once you play tf enough, you should know the timing anyway, so it would be easy enough. But it you change it to where it is completely random, his only real form of cc is useless, (also adding this in while I can think of it, imo, hes more of a roaming mage with his ult so the combination of his Ult in ganks in bot or top would be useless if his W was random)

His Stacked Deck is weird and I wouldn't mind that changing as much as the other abilities, I do agree that attack speed boost is weird for a mage, however it has saved me in some situations. The only way I could ever think of changing this is making his passive procc on his E and changing his passive completely. (though that's just my thought)

His ult is fine in my opinion as I think he's more of a roam/pick mage then a straight up laner anyway, it gives him the much needed "edge" on what i think Twisted fate needs, since the enemy lanes always have to be on the watch for him after 6 (much like Karthus and his Ult).

But these are just my thoughts honestly. xD.

Dr Clueless PhD1/2/2015, 3:56:09 PM1 votes

Sorry, but no.

I don't want my match decided by who was the luckier player (matchmaking aside). I want it decided by who was the better player. Crit is more than enough RNG for this game.

BastionKross1/2/2015, 4:08:26 PM1 votes

You could inject more luck-based gameplay into TF, sure. He seems to be the right character to do something like this with due to his status as a gambler.

The problem arises with League being a primarily competitive game. Luck based mechanics are terrible in games that can get heated in a competitive nature; And rightfully so, why would you rely on luck to see if you grab a kill or not instead of your skill with the champion?

Thus, if you make a champion revolve around luck, you can basically forget about that champion ever being played by higher level players and pros. There may be one or two luck TF mains in challenger (There's a high level Urgot main for crying out loud), but that'll be it. TF would become the joke character, one you can't really do as well with no matter how much you practice.