Is Riot capable of releasing a balanced champion?

PeelDpotato·4/21/2017, 11:52:31 AM·6 votes·1,143 views

So the new champs are completely overtuned. Again. Is it a business model to release champs that are too strong to rake in the $$$? Why can't you disable the champs in ranked similar to LCS until the subsequent patch? Does Riot even care?

8 Comments

DeathBurst4/21/2017, 1:08:32 PM2 votes

Balancing the champions properly without data is kinda hard, you now. And they can't get data before they actually release them (PBE is for debugging and a bit of feedback, but PBE data is sh*t for balancing purpose).

So no, Riot isn't capable of releasing a balanced champ, and it's ridiculous to criticize them about that.

Then, ask yourself, what's worst for the game? Releasing them a bit too OP or a bit too UP? If you release them UP, they make a bad first impression and lose a lot of popularity for no good reason, look what happened with Bard.

PeelDpotato4/22/2017, 7:27:40 AM2 votes

LOL. I come back to my post and all it is a bunch of bronze monkeys that think I "have a lack of understanding the game". God bless you apes.

Starcraft243ver4/21/2017, 12:28:11 PM1 votes

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So the new champs are completely overtuned. Again. Is it a business model to release champs that are too strong to rake in the $$$? Why can't you disable the champs in ranked similar to LCS until the subsequent patch? Does Riot even care?

A lot of champions were totaly bad at their release and then got buffed the nexts 3/4 patches (then got nerfed again for some). bard, ivern, taliah, tham kench ...

Restless Slumber4/21/2017, 3:43:42 PM1 votes

Xayah isn't very good, and Rakan is pretty lame to play against. Your lack of understanding the game lead you to believe the ridiculous fallacy created in your lacking mind that Riot only tries to make money by making champions broken on release. This is just not true at all. Think back to release Jhin or release Taliyah or release Illaoi. All of these champions were garbage on release. There is not a single problem with them releasing these champions and people wanting to play them, yet you insist that they shouldn't be allowed in ranked, so that a large portion of players who only play ranked won't be able to get experience on or with them.

The Last Ballad4/22/2017, 6:55:34 AM1 votes

I find it interesting that people get so hot and heavy about Riot possibly doing something in the intent that it would generate them money. They are a business, that was what they were created to do. And 99% of the time, the thing isn't even something that is immoral or unfair!(see: people complaining about how Hextech Crafting was a way to get people to spend more money. Seriously, what?)

If Riot does release overpowered champions on purpose with the intent on gaining money, so what? As long as the champs are not breaking the game at the seams, and are brought back into line fairly quickly, is it so bad that Riot generated money to continue developing this game? If you have a problem with it, don't buy the champ with RP.

Now onto another point, can you actually expect a champ to be perfectly balanced when the testing is limited? Which would you think would paint a better picture of a champs power, 10, 000 testers(if that), or several million?(spoilers, it's the second). The PBE isn't a "make sure everything is 100% balanced and has absolutely no issues" mode, it is a "make sure that everything works as it is intended, and that it isn't absurdly broken" mode. When your goal is to make sure the coding behind a champ actually applies all its effects correctly without any bugs, making sure that it is balanced against every other champ, in every combination of builds, kinda takes the backseat.

Joes4/21/2017, 2:45:16 PM1 votes

Xerath he is balanced

ThugWalrus4/21/2017, 12:57:24 PM1 votes

I don't know if I agree that the new champs are really that overtuned. They are certainly no Ekko or Camille that's for sure. Rakan maybe seems a bit strong, but not he's not horribly broken. And I haven't seen a game yet where I was like "wow I really can't play around this Xayah"