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Why is Support so Underwhelming? Why Do People Insist on Not Pushing Side Lanes? I don't Like S6.

GenghisEmo·8/28/2016, 12:15:06 AM·7 votes·1,359 views

I'm tired of people telling me "don't leave the adc" when the ADC is begging to get caught out because he/she refuses to manage side lanes, and fails to push lead. Instead of trying to avoid champions that have as good wave clear or better to avoid stalemate, ADC insists on getting picked off 1v3 in MId Lane. There are other lanes, and sometimes the minions are against us, or they are in our favor... so please, please learn to manage them.

No wonder the Support role is dead, even after the changes. I get Support as Secondary 95% of the time, i can't get anything other than Support. So as a Support Main, what now is a useless role in Season 6 outside of Diamond, I noticed that I have to play smarter to feel impactful.

If i don't manage the waves, we lose in 20 minutes. If i do manage them, we somehow last 45 minutes even when we get hell of behind.

Maybe, maybe, if non Supp Mains are forced to main, maybe then they will get smarter. And maybe then the community will be less toxic as a whole after getting smarter about what needs to actually be done in the game. Towers over Kills, instead of just kills... kills are great, but thay are a means to facilitate the tower taking. Everything is done to facilitate the tower taking. But no one gets it.

It's sad, super sad, seeing all the hard work i put into feeding my ADC, for them to never play smart and always get caught out. Even if i stay with them at all times, ping retreat, or careful, they still go out of their way to over extend and get caught.

Season 6, least fun season ever. Just when i started to have fun with the minor Support changes, but, just like that, I am demoralized to see that Supports are still useless. Guess I have to go anything BUT Support again just to feel useful, and to actually have an impact in matches.

Season 5 Support class was impactful, and fun. Season 6, not anymore. Now it is choose anything that is a secondary Mid laner to win. The age of the true Supps in dead outside of Diamond or higher. Gold carries don't even want to be spoon fed kills. Bronze carries insist on ARAM.

It's time to leave League again, until Support is good again. Or just play anything, but Support no matter how unfun it is to play no skill champs to force a win without using any strategy what-so-ever. League of Legends has become Call of Duty, it is just a mindless kill chasing game for the most part.

27 Comments

Dominick Destine8/28/2016, 12:46:55 AM6 votes

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So as a Support Main, what now is a useless role in Season 6

u wot m8?

Annie Alistar Taric Karma Thresh

Handy Sandy 8/28/2016, 12:31:21 AM3 votes

Tbh I really like supports, especially Nami and Janna players. I would have became one too but I like to be the person dishing out damage from afar and going 1v1 in the mid lane vs someone else. Also, ADC's just aren't reliable and most of them are just bad. They just mindlessly follow around the ADC and don't help the rest of the team and at 20 minutes they have like 50 CS - I'd understand if the ADC left lane and minions were attacking the tower. The good ones though, they disrupt the back line with CC and all that good stuff all while keeping track of our health so they can peel when needed. Those ones can really change a game.

cope moment8/28/2016, 12:59:42 AM2 votes

I always find it super satisfying in any game to playLeona due to the majestic shield booping and calling down the sun to stun someone

SarcasticShepard8/28/2016, 1:09:32 AM2 votes

I started playing support and I hated it. By the time I left my group of poisonous friends, I was too good at it to play anything else, so now I do well, but hate each minute of it. That's why I play mage support.

Memeguel4208/28/2016, 12:19:33 AM2 votes

The best way to not be useless as a support is to play Annie Anivia Lux because of their damage or Nautilus Thresh Blitzcrank because you can easily catch people from the enemy team.

I hate my ADC8/28/2016, 12:59:03 AM2 votes

That is the sad reality of being a support. Find yourself a good ADC to duo with or suffer all of the terrible ADC. It's not that much different from other seasons, just that there is a bigger emphasis on it now because the game has become exponentially more unforgiving and snowbally.

The real problem here is the ADCs. A support as to rely on its team, but what most ADCs don't understand is that, they too have to rely on their team just as much as the support needs to. An ADC is absolutely useless without a team protecting it. Just like a support is useless without a team to support. So most ADCs will think they can just do everything by themselves, splitpush, facecheck, separate from their team or get caught out with their pants down all the time. But the fact is... the ADC is fully responsible for seeking protection from its team. His team is responsible for keeping the ADC fed in gold from either kills, CS or objectives. Few people understand that. Everyone wants to be the "super carry" that do everything by themselves and only a few truly understand that this is a team game. You win as a team. Kills are a commodity, not a given and no one should plan their game with being fed in mind.

So really... Support isn't in a bad spot at all, especially since the few last updates that brought a lot of supports up to par. Just that people want Support to be what it isn't meant to do... carrying as a solo player. And honestly... no role should be meant to carry as a solo player. You can thanks how snowbally this game has become.

ChaosThief8/28/2016, 12:57:05 AM2 votes

There was a day and age where supports actually had to have supportive abilities. In other words, healing their ally, increasing movement speed, something like that. When people said "annie can't support, all she has is a stun"

Now it's all about just giving the ADC as many kills as you can at this point. How long have I been playing this game?

Erockandroll8/31/2016, 3:05:54 AM1 votes

If Wave management is non existent in Diamond. That makes me deeply concerned about the their tactics.

Minion waves are low hanging fruit. You clear the wave, get XP, get gold and catch up. Way less riskier than chasing the enemy though their Jungle hoping you'll get the kill gold, and Likely get the killed in the process. If your not going to manage waves, you should probably play either a Jungler or Support, where CS is far less important.

And the bitch about you doing it, only because they can't handle the enemy the very moment the teams become uneven. Probably because A) the enemy had the better team fighting comp. (in which case Grouping is the wrong response) or B) They get routed, due to bad positioning, no peel, or poor vision.

Eedat8/28/2016, 1:36:37 AM1 votes

Why Do People Insist on Not Pushing Side Lanes?

Wait, this isnt ARAM?

MunchCrunchLunch8/28/2016, 5:54:34 AM1 votes

most supports are snowball champs. by that i mean they help your team snowball further. more than half the support roster feels useless if behind due to being gold starved but also. if your behind you mostly need damage. and supports don't provide that even if your playing annie or brand you probably have no items to do damage. top mid can farm. however the adc is usually stuck as being useless until late game or the enemy makes mistakes. because a behind adc is overshadowed by the enemy adc thats dpsing down their whole behind team. and hes trying to kill the fed enemy frontline.

too many snowball factors. global gold made this game stink in terms of managing your own lane

play champions that provide global support. gangplank for example. really strong in a meta where all lanes winning or losing. affect other lanes. not in team fights. which is obvious. but during laning. global gold. jungle pressure. side wave pushing and lane pressure. etc.

in high level of play. thats false. everything i said is wrong or most of it. because people are very good at the game unlike me. but its very rare where i see a bard thats playing bard the way its meant to be played. usually a smurf if so. or a main.

for the most part in bot lane its usually thresh and thresh job is easy.

in lower elo usually the losing team makes a lot more mistakes than the winning team. and their mistakes hurt even more. its easy to make a mistake and still be ahead. but when your behind you can't afford to and your easily punished for mistakes. most of the time its usually the lanes that get camped.

TyrekGoldenspear8/28/2016, 1:01:43 PM1 votes

I find Taric is super useful in solo queue. If you play him right he can feed your team kills easy peasy.

Unstoppable Monk8/30/2016, 4:37:41 AM1 votes

The primary problem with support role is that Riot and the community decided upon having the team majority be able to impose on player that might know their role better. Players often abuse the authority of cooperating with the team (or be reported) against players that know how to play their role better than they do. When it comes to the jungler or support, people make demands of them being their personal bitch instead of a teammate. The dislocation of player role advocacy alienated a minority role. It doesn't help that there's 100 Marksman mains that don't know what their lane matchup is for every support that does.

The fact is Bot and Support should have been a combination same role so the lane in general is considered the same with just two players with the same role.

Athenes Lulu8/30/2016, 5:47:59 AM1 votes

There's a difference in between leaving the ADC in a bad 1v2 situation and leaving the ADC so he can farm.

If support is "bad" because of "bad ADCs", then you're probably not doing it right. You got an entire team to babysit, not just that one other teammate that potentially can be useless all game.

If you are letting your ADCs drag you around, you're gonna have a bad time. Do the other way around, and supporting becomes extremely effective through shotcalling, wave management, and hopefully objective control. And yes, you don't have to sound like an asshole to drag "guide" your ADCs around.

LadyRenly8/31/2016, 2:24:35 AM1 votes

people probably dont push side lanes because as soon as they see someone not playing aram, they either decide to pick that person out, or engage on your team 4v5