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Anthony0603·8/4/2017, 9:13:34 AM·2 votes·990 views

This item is... imho... in a really unhealthy spot right now. So just a little preface for this. I am not a mid main, but as an ADC main, if I wanted an item with attack speed, crit, grievous wounds, lifesteal, and armor penetration. Well... it just doesn't exist, there's not even anything close. I mean, you can get a good mix of attack speed/crit or attack speed/lifesteal. And even with "meta" builds going around, an ADC still has build options to choose from based on their playstyle. A spammy Varus might want Essence reaver, a vayne that needs to kite a lot might choose botrk. Point is, by choosing those items each player is giving up something else. The essence reaver varus is trading a bit of basic attack damage he could get by starting botrk or IE for poke damage with the reaver. The Vayne is trading burst damage and mid game spike, for a safer duel item.

I don't want to make this post super long, but I could make the same argument with many other adcs, as well as tops, supports, jungles and even AD mids. But lets face it... when was the last time you saw an AP mid that used mana NOT getting morellos. And truly. why would they get anything else? This item is honestly too complete of an item. EVERY AP mage benefits from cooldown reduction, EVERY AP mage benefits from a large boost to AP, not to mention the build path gives them a ridiculous amount of mana regen for lane. Also, the grievous wounds transitions them nicely into teamfights allowing them to be a universal threat and giving utility. The kill/assist mana boost could not even exist on this item and it still would be great, but its like the icing on the cake with mid game snowball potential. Not to mention the incredibly affordable price right around what you would want for a first core item. Why would any mage NOT build this item?? I mean... that's great and all that mages have a good safe pick.

But it almost discourages creativity and the idea of "building for your matchup." I like how if as an ADC if you want to build grievous wounds, you give up last whisper. If you wanna build crit, you are likely bottlenecking into an IE at some point. If you want early lifesteal, you are sacrificing damage. It's a trade off. I feel like that doesn't exist for AP mana hungry mages. There is no trade off. Just get 900 gold and back for your first morello component like EVERY one else... It's just not healthy. I would like to see more diversity in mid lane.

Personal suggestion, put a little mana on banshee's veil build path, take the broken page out of morello build path, and honestly out of game would be nice. . If they want passive sustain they should be forced into a ROA or a Tear which sacrifices some of their damage. Make grievous wounds a conscious decision for mages to go out of their way to get, i dont even care if you raised it to below 40 or 50% health, there just needs to be some kind of trade off for it IDK guess this is just a rant, but I feel like the point is valid, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who sees this.

TL;DR- Morellonomicon is too versatile an item and takes away any mid build diversity. I feel like there aren't any real sacrifices made for the wealth of stats it provides.

6 Comments

Lauchmelder8/4/2017, 9:20:14 AM6 votes

We can nerf Morellonomicon when mages get the same level of variety, viability, and power AD has right now.

Mage itemization is absolute garbage.

CamilleRule348/4/2017, 9:24:48 AM4 votes

When was the last time you saw a meta top laner NOT building Black Cleaver.

Just because its a core item doesnt mean it ruins the diversity of the lane.

And a few that don't necessarily have to take a Morello start are AP assassins like Ekko, Fizz, Diana.

Alsoi I rarely see a Karthus take Morello first, but that should be obvious why.

The problem is you're basing your logic comparing carry marksmen to mages. I know you said mid lane but lets face it youre talking about mages.

The biggest counter to most mages is in fact lifesteal. The thing you fail to mention is that the grevious wounds only kicks in when they get to <30% (I think thats the number I can't exactly remember) so that means a roid raging olaf coming at you at mach dick or a PCP fueled Jax beating you to death with a lamp post is more often than not, going to be able to sustain heal through your damage because even if you are bursty, if you dont literally kill them with 1 rotation youre in a bad spot, and many mages only have that 1 rotation. Grevious wounds on morello just gives the mage a bit of slack when trying to deal with divers, slayers, and some tanks (please see Dr, Mundo)

Magical Zoe8/4/2017, 11:01:41 AM2 votes

AP itemization is already terrible in comparison to AD. Morellonomicon is perfectly fine.

KuroCaliber8/4/2017, 3:29:59 PM2 votes

Morellonomicon is literally essence reaver with grievous wounds

Ap-> ad Cdr->cdr Flat mana-> Mana passive. Arguably ADC trade off grievous wounds for the free bonus 20% CDR they get just by building CRIT items that have no CDR along along with it

Mages get frontloaded on Morello because they are intended to have mid game single item spikes, while ADC are balanced around late game two to three items spikes.

Daxanater8/4/2017, 9:54:33 AM1 votes

this post is ultimately useless right now, the level of itemization for each role is balanced when it's measure to the build rate of morello's, for example black cleaver on divers/fighters or spirt visage on tanks. i have no idea what you're trying to point out on 'wanting more diversity in the mid lane' when its perfectly fine, leave my mid lane alone thanks.

Anthony060311/16/2017, 12:01:59 AM1 votes

I've been off the forums for a while. The point is that grievous wounds itself should be something you go out of your way to buy as a counter pick. Not something that's provided on a core item. Yes, a lot of top laners were going Black Cleaver, except black cleaver provided a nice stat boost, and a little gradual armor shred, Which is beneficial no matter what team comp you are going against. You build Ardent Censer for the increased heals/shields and attack speed boost it provides, which is beneficial no matter what team comp you are going against. On the other hand, you build zhonya's for the ability to survive certain possibly unavoidable situations, based on the enemy team comp, (though it is core on a select few champs). You build warmogs if you have a large amount of health and are working more for map control, rather than constant 5v5 pushing, aka also based on the enemy team comp as well as your own. Then you look at morellos, you buy it for the AP and CDR. The fact that is has grievous wounds on it might or might not matter in your current matchup, but either way you are buying morellos. I feel like grievous wounds should be something you strategically build into based on matchup. Not something that's just handed to you in your core item.