How is it "ok" to have a Gold 2 in a Silver 3 match?

S H A Y C 0·8/22/2016, 2:28:46 PM·3 votes·841 views

I expected to start seeing low golds after a serious winning streak in silver 3...but Gold 2?

I am aware that the "obvious answer" most of you will give is that his mmr is "bad" but that is a full Tier from where i ALMOST was. That shouldnt happen. Under no circumstances should a AAA baseball team randomly be scheduled against the Yankees...It seems a bit suspect.

31 Comments

KillerPenguins8/22/2016, 2:31:33 PM4 votes

Matchmaking is bad, it's a fact of the current state of league. Rejoin the queue every 2 minutes or so and it will lower the number of imbalanced teams you get a bit, but with dynamic queue it's not possible to eliminate unbalanced teams except by being on one.

Horse Grenades8/22/2016, 2:35:17 PM2 votes

I was playing on an alternate account the other day and there was a bronze 1 and a plat 5 in the same game. lolz

FioraWillCarry8/22/2016, 5:20:28 PM2 votes

For all intents and purposes, division and tiers do not exist as far as the matchmaker is concerned. It only cares about MMR. Divisions and tiers exist because humans are more comfortable using that instead of a plain old number to gauge the relative skill of a player. While MMR is supposed to be matched to a tier/division, the truth is, the tier/division lags behind MMR. The LP system is designed to match a player's MMR to a tier and division but it takes time for it to place a player at the right tier/division.

As for your situation, with a Gold 2 being matched with Silver 3, it means one of two things, the Silver player's MMR is much much higher and the LP system hasn't yet been able to place you there yet. If you're gaining anything above 21 LP per win then it means your MMR is very high. This is why you gain so much LP, it's trying to get you to your real rank faster. The other possibility is that the Gold 2 player's MMR is quite low. In his case, he will be losing more LP per lose that he gains per win. This is the system trying to push him down to his real rank faster.

TLDR; Don't worry about the tier/division of your opponents. It little more than an aesthetic to please human eyes.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, premades can cause you to see higher or lower ranked players in your games too. But the same applies. The system averages the MMR of all the players on team so games would still be fair. If you have a higher ranked player on your team then the average MMR of your entire team goes up. Another thing is if there is a real Gold 2 player on the other team then his opponents would be much lower skilled than him by way of this same averaging system. They lower players would "weigh down" so to speak, the average MMR of their team to the Silver level.

Naenia8/22/2016, 2:30:58 PM2 votes

Silvers can play with any division of bronze and gold. I agree that it won't always be fair, but that's the way Riot decided ranked should be. Also, think of it as a way to test your skills. If you're not able to beat someone in Gold, then you're not ready to be in gold yourself. Not trying to be rude or anything.

EndlessSorcerer8/22/2016, 5:33:00 PM1 votes

Dynamic Queue tends to screw with matchmaking since you have have people within 10 divisions within one another in a group together.

Sadly, it isn't uncommon to see Gold 5 players in the same match as a Platinum 1.

There is a reason games have been really stompy this season.

Azure Hamster8/22/2016, 5:52:57 PM1 votes

I was recently in a normal game with all golds on my team as a silver 3, vs two plats and 3 golds. I went 6/0. Here's the best thing to do.

Just play, don't worry about everyone's ranks.

Caitlyn

Hyperiön8/24/2016, 5:16:08 PM1 votes

DQ, thats why.

SwiftKitten888/24/2016, 5:18:44 PM1 votes

im "ranked" in silver 5 but my mmr puts me with high golds and plats...

Locke Daemonfire8/22/2016, 3:27:29 PM1 votes

You'll have a lower chance of getting big imbalances if you queue solo.

Also, Gold 2 was on your team? Unless there's a more recent match that hasn't updated yet.

Iwinatlife428/22/2016, 3:43:29 PM1 votes

Basically you are on a winning streak he was on a losing streak probably its great for you because his morale is low.

Mazariamonti8/22/2016, 3:47:31 PM1 votes

Mechanically speaking you can probably take on and be beatin by players within a tier of yourself, though I am always confused at how with such a large player base there isn't a couple hundred silver people to match you up against any time you feel like playing ranked. Oh well.