Why aren't ADCs/Support mid instead of bot?

Darkstar Annie·12/27/2019, 1:53:20 AM·5 votes·5,769 views

It would make it easier for supports to roam top or bot to help out if they bot lane was mid, and mages were bot. Why has bot ADC/Support become the permanent meta?

12 Comments

SooFr0sty12/27/2019, 4:45:53 AM5 votes

Originally markamen went mid and mages went bot with a support I believe.

Then they realized adc need a baby sitter and so they went bot.

Mages are squisher so they need the shorter lane since they're solo.

Also probably something about having two squishies able to ward and be near dragon.

Boundless Fire12/27/2019, 3:41:25 AM4 votes

You have two fragile damage dealers, often a mage and an ADC. Both scale with gold and so need to farm a lane. The mage though also needs levels, so the support should go with the ADC so as to not leach experience from the carry that needs it more. That means you have the solo mage and the duo ADC/Supp. The mage then goes to the safer lane, mid, because they do not have the protection of the support while the ADC/support can go bot.

Hi im 1212/27/2019, 11:45:07 AM2 votes

mages can easily lane against duo bot mid lane but they can't lane against them bot lane so whichever team made the swap would be at a disadvantage, also turret changes to bottom that were made to discourage lane swaps.

Sire Hippington12/27/2019, 4:48:43 AM2 votes

because mid is the save lane. Even for an adc/sup duo, it is really hard to punish a wavclear mage 2v1 on the short lane, while in the sidlane there is plenty room for zoneing and building up a wave that even good wavclear champs will struggle with early on. So if you go 2 mid while the opponents go 2 bot, your sololnaner will have a much harder time while your duo can't press their advantage as hard. Support roaming for example sounds decent for mid, but in practice you have much smaller windows befor the wave resets and pushes into your tower, so less time for roams. And you can't leave your adc alonew much better than in the duo, cause most midlaners, with the lvl advantage they get solo, will be able to kill the adc 1v1 even if behind in gold.

Also, most midlaners are very vulnerable in the long lane. This isn't as prominent as it was in the past(as the number of mid picks that work top shows), but there are still some champs that have a really hard time surviving in the long lane on their own. Duolanes provide savety in numbers and have a much better ward coverage, so they can deal with the long lane.

Dynikus12/27/2019, 2:15:32 AM2 votes

mid being able to roam top/bot is more useful than a support being able to roam to either. Mid is also the hardest lane to gank because there is the most number of escape routes, so immobile mages go there. Having 2 players closer to dragon pit gives you better control over it 2 players being able to leash jungler and get to lane in time to catch minions is better than one player leashing

I actually can't really think of a single reason you would want adc/support mid other than your support having an even easier time roaming.

ProphetOfDraven12/27/2019, 12:31:59 PM1 votes

Mid is the "safe" lane, due to it being the shortest lane on the map, and easiest for junglers to come and unfreeze lanes. No reason for a support to ever be mid as the carry is already safe alone and has the jungler. Top lane is the solo bruiser / tank lane due to that class being the best at avoiding ganks solo ( its still pretty hard for them though ). Bot lane has two people because a solo ADC / mage or solo support would be easy to gank ( and just get ran down the long lane with their low MS ). Also ADC's dont really scale with levels typically just gold and items. Don't feel discouraged though, you can play ADC's in mid solo if you want, the only reason they aren't played there is because someone on the team has to be a ranged duo lane carry and it's much better its an ADC than a mage, but ADC's are actually really good solo laners. PTA ezreal is really good mid and so is tristana.

Woodakoodashooda12/27/2019, 3:11:18 PM1 votes

It is easier to safeguard the ADC in bot. Additionally, having two champions in bot lane helps to prevent a long curved lane from being empty of allies.

Reaper Soraka12/27/2019, 4:00:49 AM1 votes

I've always thought it was because there are so many routes to gank mid. Since the ADCs are usually super squishy and immobile, they go bot so there are only 3 ganking paths instead of 7. Even if both support and adc ward, they can't effectively cover all paths.

It was also chosen to be bot instead of top due to dragon control. Dragon was always a point to contest where baron would spawn 20mins in. Now RH exists, but it's still not as valuable as dragon.

A lot of mids were already mobile or had a decent disengage and could roam to bring the damage needed for ganks.

Ulriah12/27/2019, 5:04:38 AM1 votes

Because mid is shorter, so if you're in danger, you're closer to your turret, therefore it makes more sense to have the support on bot lane to mitigate the danger when retreating.

AirKingNeo12/27/2019, 6:30:43 AM1 votes

bot offers more safety and mid is the best lane to roam.

Darkdemon65312/27/2019, 11:53:11 AM1 votes

Since the mages are solo, they need the safer lane.