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Micro-balancing ARAM has unintended consequences and should be stopped

Tychusfindlay918·10/20/2019, 3:30:55 PM·92 votes·20,503 views

Balancing out the generally ridiculous aram champions like Veigar or Sona make sense.

I couldn't help but notice a DrMundo 10% tank nerf. This doesn't make sense. Yes mundo in ARAM sucks to play against if your team is mostly or fully AP. But then when you get mundo into a team that is AD oriented or has a vayne or whatever, the nerf takes an already kind of shitty champion and gutters the crap out of him.

He's the first case study. Next is Akali (or Leblanc). She has a ludicrous ARAM buff in both tank and damage. Why? She sucks into team comps that have pretty good CC and whatnot, but if she gets played into a team that is full of squishies with little to no point and click directed CC she can be an absolute fucking nightmare to face. She basically becomes unstoppable, and it's pretty common to see akalis that don't know what the fuck they are doing just R Q people to death.

ARAM balancing is largely a failure. If we're being generous, only the top 2 most offensive and bottom 2 absolute worst champions should receive any sort of balancing. Otherwise, it should be within the provence of the ban system to even out the playing field from there.

Other than that, IT IS ARAM PEOPLE. Sometimes you get a comp that sucks dick into another comp. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF RNG.

TL;DR micro balancing ARAM is a failure.

77 Comments

Sewer Side10/20/2019, 4:28:40 PM38 votes

Yeah, microbalancing doesn’t factor other champion’s micro changes.

So Lux taking 108% more damage and Eve dealing 112% of her normal damage means Lux is actually taking 20% more damage from Eve, alone. Not mentioning any other champion’s buffs.

I mean, we all hate Lux in ARAM, but making them squishier to punish them stacks on top of champion’s getting more damage, meaning she’s even more squishier than the nerfed defenses.

I used to enjoy Trundle in ARAM, especially to counter Warmog tanks that scale well after towers go down, but he also got hit with a tankiness nerf because no one is allowed to enjoy Trundle anywhere

Jaspers10/20/2019, 5:04:37 PM18 votes

I've played Vel'Koz a few times recent in aram and honestly, it sometimes feels like I'm not doing anything. -10% damage right? Well, no there is the -15% from poke block too. -25% on his poke. His ult range is 1500, the poke reduction is like 900 or 1000.

It kinda makes sense but then look at the assassin champs bonus damage. Akali 18%, LB 12% Kai'sa 12%? 50% of the time no one sees Kai'sa, she's at the back of the map spamming W except her W will have no poke reduction as it's cancelled out with the added damage and scales on both AD and AP.

Meanwhile, Poppy 45% winrate. Braum 45% winrate. Nothing done to them.

Irony as well, Nasus has double stacks right? Well he also has a -5% damage dealt. :P

It's a bit messy at the moment. Still fun if you have fun and do different builds and stuff but all they have done is make frustrating champs just as frustrating when as a tank before I can dodge Vel or Ziggs skillshots. Can't dodge a point and click from Gunblade doing 300 damage.

PaffWasTaken10/20/2019, 8:36:22 PM15 votes

Bring back ARAM bans

0cean Mann10/21/2019, 2:06:14 AM9 votes

I wish they buff the turrets, they just tickle champions and gets destroyed easily

Ahri Baka10/20/2019, 4:30:30 PM9 votes

Also Kai'sa Tho Mundo's nerf is deserved , the only example you mentioned was Vayne , and she originally counters him anyway so Aram doesn't matter

AquariusGine10/20/2019, 5:17:35 PM9 votes

ARAM feels like crap to play, it's much worse than constantly being hit by Xerath/ Lux in old ARAM. At least back then I knew who to target in teamfights. Now the knowledge you gain from SR doesn't transfer to ARAM, the damage and tankiness of some champions DON't make ANY sense. Overall just incredibly stressful and crappy experience.

PaladinNO10/20/2019, 11:13:51 PM9 votes

Micro-balancing ARAM has unintended consequences and should be stopped

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/ou8FmdQG-aram-changes-for-710

Period.

Return ARAM to when it was a question of individual skill instead of how to use Mark/Dash.

I am 20 games away from 10.000 games on the Howling Abyss. I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about, having seen just about every possible match-up.

Restore default stats (from Summoner's Rift, effectively), remove Mark/Dash (let it stay in Poro King), return the majority of the old items (Zephyr, Deathfire Grasp, Face of the Mountain (minus the gold gain), Lightbringer, the old Guardian's Horn to name a few). https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Removed_items

And given the current number of champions, add a 3rd reroll. And let ARAM be the place it was originally intented to be: just a fun fiesta, where everyone goes ham and the best team wins.

EDIT: Typo.

FriendlyYordle10/20/2019, 6:18:39 PM6 votes

ARAM was my last sanctuary from the balance team. Like OP stated a few changes to blatantly broken champs in ARAM not a big deal. Now the balance team just throwing out short sighted buffs and nerfs to tons of random champs that dont need any changes. Probably why I have played this game less and less from SR and now ARAM.

G0blinSlay3r10/21/2019, 7:03:41 AM4 votes

i would like to be able to play something in aram a feel confident that i can apply it to SR. With this type ARAM ballance... i CAN'T

See what u did riot? see why i don't go into SR?

Naono10/20/2019, 7:48:40 PM4 votes

My biggest issue with Aram balance is... The numbers are a lie.

Does take % more or less damage reflects in defense stats?

Does dealing % more or less dmg reflects in offensive stats?

And etc.

Bisaknosp10/20/2019, 8:05:04 PM3 votes

they should nerf nasus in aram its stupid how strong he is

SammyDayspring10/20/2019, 6:50:47 PM3 votes

The micro balances are a failure. If they want to try to make comps more balanced, I think they should try some of the larger issues. The biggest challenges I see with ARAM are poke and cc. I think they already nerfed very long ranged abilities, but if you have ever played as or against an AP Kai'sa, it doesn't feel like it. High cc teams are almost an auto win. Maybe granting everyone some tenacity might balance that a little more.

ValiantKiller10/20/2019, 10:13:21 PM3 votes

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Balancing out the generally ridiculous aram champions like Veigar or Sona make sense.

I couldn't help but notice a DrMundo 10% tank nerf. This doesn't make sense. Yes mundo in ARAM sucks to play against if your team is mostly or fully AP. But then when you get mundo into a team that is AD oriented or has a vayne or whatever, the nerf takes an already kind of shitty champion and gutters the crap out of him.

He's the first case study. Next is Akali (or Leblanc). She has a ludicrous ARAM buff in both tank and damage. Why? She sucks into team comps that have pretty good CC and whatnot, but if she gets played into a team that is full of squishies with little to no point and click directed CC she can be an absolute fucking nightmare to face. She basically becomes unstoppable, and it's pretty common to see akalis that don't know what the fuck they are doing just R Q people to death.

ARAM balancing is largely a failure. If we're being generous, only the top 2 most offensive and bottom 2 absolute worst champions should receive any sort of balancing. Otherwise, it should be within the provence of the ban system to even out the playing field from there.

Other than that, IT IS ARAM PEOPLE. Sometimes you get a comp that sucks dick into another comp. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF RNG.

TL;DR micro balancing ARAM is a failure.

All Assassins have that dumb buffs Rengar Khazix Katarina and oh God it hell to play against them , i saw many bad Kat just get penta by faceroll over their R when my team is squishy

Akali is SO HOT10/20/2019, 5:56:39 PM3 votes

Akali doing 18% extra damage is perfectly balanced ecks dee

Jesi Oni10/20/2019, 4:51:12 PM3 votes

It should be random out of all champions IN GAME without rerolls, trades or ANY balancing.

Alone fact that its picking out of owned and free week champions is stupid... I can buy only those champions that are good in aram and always stomp... and when I will get some free week crap then I have two rerolls anyway 🤣

IxenQidansecor10/20/2019, 4:49:00 PM3 votes

I was wondering if someone would make a post of this even though I dont think they will touch these changes for a long while or even balances new champs coming out like Senna if shes really good in aram. Some of the biggest offenders imo are Evelynn , Leblanc and some other that got huge damage reductions and damage bonuses. I played against a leblanc the other day and we were all squishy with no cc on non ult abilities and she could just one shot anyone for free once she had ludens with her ult double w and there was nothing we could really do.

Meanwhile other assassins got no buffs that arent particularly good in the first place like Diana or Khazix.

Then there are champs like Kaisa who got 12% more damage and shes not even bad in aram or Ezreal who got no damage reduction but all he does is mostly poke endlessly for free on melees.

I dont even play Sona anymore shes useless af since she deals significantly less damage takes a lot more and provides not good utility since heals and shields are halved. She is basically just a flash ult bot at best if you can get a 4 or 5 man ult. The same goes for other heals and shields supports who got nerfed.

I thought the entire point of the micro balancing was to make games not completely hopeless in some situations, but that still happens a decent amount of the time.