Bring old darius and garen back please

jokare·10/3/2016, 12:09:53 PM·4 votes·993 views

they game is getting really boring with the after rework Garen garen i just dont feel he deals dmg with his E anymore its like a tickle me spell i remember the Garen old garen you can go full ad and still win the game with a score of 27/6/5 but now when you do that you will be 11/22/4 its like the game is just based on builds and burst and no fun at all at least bring the Garen old garen thats all i am asking, because when i saw the kog KogMaw nerf i felt hope that you might bring the Garen old garen now he is useless, and Darius darius is like playing a mini game and he feels like playing a boss not a champion, even tho i like it but it just makes the game not fun for anyone. if you could bring any of them back i will happly main them as they were my mains before the update.

18 Comments

Akenero10/3/2016, 12:13:46 PM3 votes

Garen gained some extra stuff in his justice mechanic, AND got his original w passive back. Darius gained... Sustain Damage buffs Stronger slows Stronger synergy with black cleaver

hOrnn10/3/2016, 1:25:21 PM2 votes

how to beat garen in lane, item 3155 item 3156 gg when he ults..

darius tbh is 100x better then old darius, i hated his rework at first too, i hated the .75 second windup on q, but its not that bad, sure it makes him worse vs riven now, but count in the heal and its a pay off, yea he lost 40% attacksped debuff on his W, but his bleed is now AD damage so is effected by penn, and he gets like a TON of free ad...

still going to abuse them top with Kennen Lissandra until i get to finnally play vs Darius with Fiora and parry his ult, and listen to him cry.

TyrekGoldenspear10/3/2016, 2:39:55 PM2 votes

Garen got better with the rework imo.

Its just that the meta has shifted to not favor him.

MaeDoSan10/3/2016, 12:24:41 PM1 votes

Draven's original passive should be bought back , every adc has some sort of damage steroid or utility passive - jhin ,lucian, ashe,mf,

Tychusfindlay91910/3/2016, 2:13:11 PM1 votes

Garen's ultimate needs to be AD and naturally ignore % armor. Remove villain mechanic entirely and put a tiny bit of power back into basic abilities that affect more than just one person.

At least this way Garen won't feel like absolute shit when he ults an adc or fighter with maw when they aren't villain, and he'll be able to do shit to people who aren't "villains"

tl;dr fuck villain mechanic put villain-less power back into abilities and remove it.

NovaDisk10/5/2016, 8:06:45 AM1 votes

Garen was briefly in a good spot after the rework, but then a bunch of stuff happened that made him trash-tier again. Before the rework Garen was one of the weakest champs in the game, and after all the indirect nerfs to Garen he's pretty much where he started.

Garen is currently tied with Nasus for the weakest champion in the game at high levels of play. (Neither champion has been played in a single game Masters+ within the last month in NA, EUW, EUNE, or KR servers).

Every single one of Garen's core items got nerfed due to other champs abusing them (item 3068 item 3742 item 3071 item 3053 item 3156 item 3009 + Alacrity).

Since then, League of Rylai's became a thing, as well, as well as other items that completely screw over Garen item 3022 item 3069 .

Meanwhile, powerful new bruiser items were reworked, but they do not synergize well with Garen's kit item 3046 item 3078 .

All of the item/meta changes have contributed to Garen ending up in the sorry state he currently is in.