Why is Ryze's win rate so low?

MCBiggah99·10/23/2015, 5:09:46 PM·1 votes·1,301 views

Do people use the wrong runes on him? Do people not know how to chain his combo?

After seeing Faker play him at Worlds, I got inspired to try to blue man myself, and the results were satisfying to say the least. I even managed to beat some of my hated enemy champions (Yasuo, Zed) in lane.

12 Comments

EndlessSorcerer10/23/2015, 5:25:16 PM3 votes

Their keyboards can't handle the strain and shatter mid-match.

A moment of silence, please, for their loss.

Rustling Bush10/23/2015, 5:13:36 PM2 votes

i tried playing the new ryze a few times and completely fell flat, i was using all the right runes and stuff but his early game just felt so... bad, and if you lose lane you remain useless all game. apparently he takes a lot of micromanaging with that passive shield of his, just keeping it at a certain stack so you don't use it to early but have it readily available for when you run into trouble, overall hes just boring to play but probably really good in the hands of someone very experienced with him and proably only picked to stop hyper mobile champions like the ones mention above.

Celeste Benal10/23/2015, 5:31:41 PM1 votes

The way his kit works he is either broken OP or broken trash. There will never be a comfortably balanced middle ground until he no longer has a snare. And ofc, the entire concept of his kit is to pound you into oblivion while you're snared.

Krys Star10/23/2015, 6:26:23 PM1 votes

Riot said they want to make sure Ryze's and Azir's win rate are below 50%. They're a champion that, if played right and mastered, can be incredibly overpowering. However, to the basic players, they'll be average at best.

Lugg10/23/2015, 6:42:01 PM1 votes

Most people have no idea how to chain the combos.

Hard4Hamsters10/23/2015, 11:43:27 PM1 votes

He is legitimately a hard champion to play right now. It's hard to imagine that the spam-lord of button smashing is hard to play, but he is. You have to always keep your passive in mind which is hard to do under pressure, but nearly all of his power comes from his passive's uptime. His early game is EXTREMELY risky as he is very mana hungry if he is fighting/trading with lane opponents, he has no inherent escapes, and he is fairly squishy pre-6. He needs items to be effective, namely his first two items in RoA and Tear (Archangel's/Seraph).

Now that is all about the laning phase primarily. But he isn't really easy to play in teamfights either. His positioning is very tricky as he is low-midrange, pretty squishy (even with 2500HP + shield), but you have to be able to be aggressive during your passive's uptime to make the most of your damage. Now that his Q is a skillshot and his main source of targeted damage, it makes his positioning all the more important. ANY CC can really hinder Ryze as he needs to be moving and throwing out his spam combos to make the most of his kit; slows, roots, stuns and silences are bad for any champion, but Ryze I feel is extremely weak to them. In most games, I end up building Mercs on him just for this reason.

With all of that said. I think Ryze is actually REALLY strong and borderline broken in the right hands. His ability to output DPS rivals mages like Cassiopeia and Azir albeit a lot less safely. He is easily countered, but if he gets ahead he will be fairly tanky thanks to his Spellvamp and shield uptime (plus Seraph's shield) and he will be able to carry teamfights by locking down opponents with his targeted root chain and spellslinging "wqeqwq" aids.

This is just my opinion of course. Some people think he's really bad, but I feel he is just played poorly. Runes and Builds could be something to do with it, but I doubt it is a big difference.