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Ziggs passive doesn't make sense with kit (Serious discussion only pls)

Azel69·10/31/2015, 3:12:18 AM·3 votes·919 views

Ziggs passive doesn't work well with his kit. All of Ziggs abilities out range his auto attack range big time. He is a long range mage but his passive that deals extra damage you have to be at short range. My idea for a new passive "bomb expert" Ziggs can store up too two charges. Charges can be used to empower his next ability. Ziggs gains a charge after X amount of time. Dealing damage to enemy champions or big/epic monsters lowers the cool-down to gaining a charge faster. I think this would give him a higher level of play and makes more sense with his over champion design. Ziggs players should be rewarded since the entire champion is based off of skill shot abilities alone. Kind of like Karma except auto attack would not lower CD abilities only. The monster thing is optional threw it in there not a must let me know what you think and** please serious discussion only.**

27 Comments

Kouga10/31/2015, 4:36:30 AM5 votes

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Ziggs passive doesn't work well with his kit. All of Ziggs abilities out range his auto attack range big time.

What if I told you

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That was the point? Ziggs has very strong zone/lane control and range. His passive is meant to incentivize him getting closer, which presents a risk (risk=reward) but offers him power in short trades and taking towers. If he could somehow use or deal that damage while keeping his range at all times he would never have a reason to get close to any danger.

Karbuncle10/31/2015, 3:25:35 AM1 votes

EVERY mage with an on hit passive have spells that outrange their autos Orianna,Lulu,Lux,Karma,Xerath,Sona,Bard.

Jbels10/31/2015, 4:05:59 AM1 votes

Sometimes I feel like people forget that the passive combined with lots of AP, and a Lich Bane can literally half health a tower

HentRex10/31/2015, 3:19:08 AM1 votes

Kinda like the idea, but instead of charges just make it a cooldown. Empowers next Q. Basic attacks should be what lower's the cooldown though. Because like you said Ziggs is all about the bomb. Having abilities lower the cooldown on something that empowers them is a little much. You'd already be guaranteed empowered bombs every so often so to reduce the cooldown should come with a bit of risk. That said I personally don't have a problem with his current passive.

Poop Jelly10/31/2015, 4:32:56 AM1 votes

Not gonna lie, just played Ziggs in a quite competitive game vs Viktor and that passive is the only thing that kept me even in lane. Bounching Bombs are super easy to dodge, E & W are mostly used for defensive purposes, and that passive AA was the only thing that allow me to pin down my trade against him. I do have a problem with current Ziggs's state though, used to have so much fun with the little rascal

Shonjl10/31/2015, 4:38:09 AM1 votes

His passive is the same as lux's. Long range mage but passive is near useless since it wants you to get close.

He doesn't need it though. A ziggs that gets a head will murder with him bombs.

Bleediss10/31/2015, 4:10:18 AM1 votes

you seem to be forgetting he has this passive to offer him extra trading and splitpushing power