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EKKO NEEDS A REWORK ASAP!

Samsunger·12/8/2018, 1:47:52 PM·3 votes·3,220 views

I love playing Ekko he's fun but hes not viable he has so many issues and no matter how fed one is on ekko, hes still un playble for many reasons. I will go over what is wrong with each part of his kit.

Q- His Q does no damage and costs too much mana in the early game where by this is his main csing tool especially against ranged match-ups, why not lower the mana cost of his Q OR EVEN BETTER..... give him a passive where he gets mana back maybe on every minion or monster kill? Like Diana or Jayce. Is that too much to ask for? Champions likeTalon have an abilitiy I can find most similar to Ekko's Q but theirs is more efficient. Talon can freely farm with his W because the mana scales less per level compared to Ekko and guess what, Talon has about 100 more base mana than ekko does! And on the topic of him doing no damage, each assassin has the burst combo, Ekko's only bring you to maybe 60%-75% health which is not enough especially when I have the level advantage i am still being out traded.

W- I like this ability its efficient in team fights but it takes too long. As an Ekko main I have to pray for my team not to die while my W is activating. But overall nobody ever lands this ability people see it coming the only way you might get a successful one is activating it from the fog of war but even then when you see an Ekko running at you, you already know whats about to come so you move away from where you think he might've placed his W. I'd honestly prefer a zoning crowd control ability similar to Veigar orrr if you're generous give Ekko a snare skillshot likeJhin where it only last for a short amount of time to make it easier to land his 3 hit passive combo. This would help so much against ranged matchups because ekko has no long ranged poke , i get he's melee but Yasuo and Zed have long ranged poke. In order to go in on an ahri I have to EQ where as Fizz can press E, dodge her charm, and kill her.

E- The range on his E is just way too short. Ekko is an assassin mid lane assassins are known for their dashes. Increasing the range on his E would make laning phase a better experience in order to trade with ranged match ups who you cant normally reach without being half healthed. Zed has a long ranged dash you cant see coming,Leblanc Katarina , they also have a long ranged dash with a fast animation which makes it easy for them to trade. Also during teamfights I unleash my full combo on the squishy Jhin .... Now what, you might ask. I'm stuck for about 6 seconds waiting for my E cooldown to come back up because it is my only engage, sure do wish I had some other ways to engage and still be useful in a team fight even after i've used all my abilities. Please give Ekko an opputunity for only his phase dive (E) resets , so after getting a kill or an assist he is rewarded and is still able to continue his massacre. Champions likeKatarina orDiana are prime examples. You may also consider Akali , she basically gets soo many resets as each of her abilities synergizes with her passive allowing to to constantly proc it.

R- This is the ability that makes me cry the most. I might as well just have 3 abilities because I CANT USE THIS XDD. When i'm engaging i should be praying that I don't die so my ultimate is able to catch up with me and I can do some insane damage right??? BUT NOOO. IM PRAYING THAT I DONT GET CC'D. Because once i'm cc'd by ultimate is useless. Riot has to implement something that can make Ekko's ultimate still be effective even while under crowd control, similar to Tryndamere. I really think ekko's ultimate should allow him to break free from all crowd control, some may disagree but assassins are slick with finesse and are able to escape easily, and too bad ekko isn't an AD champion I cant build qss. I say allow him to break free from all crowd control and maybe nerf his AOE ult damage as compensation

I know people who don't play Ekko will be against my opinions but as an Ekko main I suffer and I hate playing him but I also love playing him

30 Comments

Noor Sakata12/8/2018, 1:56:31 PM3 votes

No , Ekko is a champion that is perfectly designed , and no , he is pretty strong , he is just underrated , like Lissandra who suddenly became meta after being playing in pro play , I always knew she is strong , when her popularity popped up , they even gave her a new passive + skin Ekko is just underrated and Ekko is NOT an assassin he wasn't designed to be one , his changed what made him so , he is more like a Fighter/Diver and a Melee mage , yes a melee mage , he has 3/4 of his Kit aoe CC/Damage

Kerrigann1/2/2019, 7:18:05 PM2 votes

So you want ekko to have no weaknesses? You literally are complaining about what he doesn't do better than other assassins, when he is the most unique assassin in the game. Passive: His passive is not hard to land, im beginning to doubt you play this champ(well). Your Q slow helps with that, and your animation cancel helps with that. If you E->Q during your E you cancel the Q animation and you dash to them with E, only having to auto attack once to proc. Opponents will obviously wanna trade back and if they don't give you the hit, you just run them down because of the slow and proc it and run back. Ekko is not good at sustained duels and he is not to be played as such. His identity is a "smart" assassin and you can't mindlessly use him to oneshot somebody. Q:You are looking at his Q the wrong way. His Q is for three things: waveclear, passive stacking, and peel. If you can't manage mana, ekko is not for you. You aren't forced to spam Qs to keep up with wave clear, ekko is bound to lose some cs in ranged matchups moreso than some ranged matchups. And while you are wrong about his full combo doing 60-75% damage, you know what else benefits from that combo? His W. If your combo doesn't kill them, your W passive damage will, and if that doesn't kill, proto belt will. W:You are describing everything that can go wrong with his W. If you let your team set up your W for you (provided you are their only initiation), you are not good at Ekko. And if you can't land your W's thats a you problem and not an Ekko problem. E:I don't understand whats wrong with his E range. Its not hard to stick to someone and you can always use W for the shield. His cooldowns get low enough normally that you don't need any kill reset(protobelt, zhonya, you can also take transendence because celerity is bad), and your passive movement speed helps you get around. R- Take ZHONYA! CLEANSE! Dodge the CC! You have to understand that its not hard to shut him down and teams won't let you get away for free.

Chizzah12/8/2018, 2:59:37 PM1 votes

Well, maybe some small changes might help him. Rework Q so when holding Q it doubles speed forward but phases out meaning no return damage. Allows for less damage but more consistent poke. Make W like Fizz E. You can press W again to reposition it closer or further to where you are for a weaker shield and shorter stun. E reset for assist or kill sounds cool. It means you can EQ + AA onto a carry then E back to their front line for an easier escape. Going 1 for 1 should never be an assassin's goal so that's reason enough for that. His R seems fine and even a bit overtuned to me. Maybe its his R that makes rito not care about him.

Does it sound overpowered? Well describe most meta champion abilities in your own words and see how that sounds.

Samsunger12/8/2018, 4:37:23 PM1 votes

I don't care about being right or wrong I just really want a riot employee to see this thread so I can play my main again.

Samsunger12/8/2018, 4:39:30 PM1 votes

you can even read by the title of this that this wasn't created for argumentation and the satisfaction of being right. This is literally meant to be seen by riot and actually bring something to next patch

Titanium7012/9/2018, 7:33:23 PM1 votes

tl:dr Dear Rito - pls remove every single form of counterplay to my champions at once. That will be so much fun!

FixThisBSGame12/9/2018, 8:21:38 PM1 votes

A Riot Employee won't comment on this. I don't know what happened to Ekko's Q damage or why his mana costs are so high. You really aren't suppose to be aggro with Ekko until level 6 and you have 1-2 item spikes. If you are having major issues with Ekko, you may not be using his passive efficiently. It does most of his damage.

Stray Kat12/9/2018, 8:30:30 PM1 votes

Trust me, you DO NOT want him to swap mana issues with Diana. Ekko might not have a mana regen passive, but he can use his spells plenty without going OOM. Diana has the passive, but until you finish a large AP item, that passive does nothing. Gaining 4 Mana from every 3rd AA in melee range out of the 200+ you need for a combo, isn't going to make much difference.

The thigh guy12/9/2018, 8:31:36 PM1 votes

Yeah he needs a rework. They need to remove his “rito I fuck up, please help me” button. -.-

CuddlePuddle Two12/28/2018, 9:57:54 PM1 votes

Ekkos kit is perfectly fine, the only thing they need to fix is his W, takes too long to pop, stun is by no means long enough for the amount of prediction it requires, the shield is good but it only lasts as long as the stun itself. Which is very ineffective. The only thing I would recommend for this fix is reduce the wait time by .5 seconds, increase stun by .25 seconds and increase the shield duration by .75 seconds.

MrHaZeYo1/8/2019, 2:27:32 AM1 votes

I enjoy playing Ekko, and as someone who also has to lane against Ekkos, I don't feel he's in a rough spot, shit he's ranked 21 out of 62 qualifying mid laners in Plat+, Ya he's not broken but he's definitively not awful.

You just seem to be complaining for nothing. Ekko has 1 of the best waveclears for a assassin, and he doesn't need to waste his moblity to do so. While his E doesn't feel like a big jump, it's a 2 part spell that is both a free untargeted dash and the 2nd part works as a blink so you can go through say a Veig cage. Together, his E is longer then most assassins mobility.

His ult is insanely good, idk what your on about. If they added a ability to do it through CC, Ekko would be stupid broken.

KiddTitus5/31/2019, 3:04:23 AM1 votes

Yeah so lemme review your order sir,

You want 0 weaknesses 12 champions to donate their unique character attributes and an ult that cannot be stopped by CC?

My guy: Before my account got perma-banned I had nearly 500k mastery points, not saying this to brag but just saying this so you don't mistake me for a newer player, Ekko is good as he is. All you need to do to combat the CC that nullifies his ult is use W, use Zhonyas immediately after, and when you come out of stasis and enemy is stunned, ult. All in all, you can't point out all the weaknesses in a champion and say they need to be removed. That's just bs. Learn what the champions weaknesses are and try to use them to your advantage. best way to land a W? Cast from fog of war, e flash up and you're likely to land it, otherwise, cast it while you're already fighting, but early on, not late or you might die from burst damage or it may just be too late. Ekko isn't broken like he used to be, but he isn't weak. There are certain match-ups that make him look like an easy lane, but what champion doesn't have a counter?

wilosonmeat5/31/2019, 12:23:40 PM1 votes

this belongs in memes

Fella Air1/12/2020, 4:51:00 AM1 votes

I thought this was complaining about him being OP and being downvoted by Ekko mains. As it turns out, no, this should be downvoted. Ekko is stupidly powerful right now and barely has any weaknesses. For some reason he's one of the only champions who's allowed to build full damage and become impossible to kill because his ulti heal scales from AP so it's basically like he has two healthbars, and if he builds full tank all of the base damage and utility from his kit still makes him dish out more punishment than most carries- While being once again frikkin impossible to kill. Screw ekko, man.

Infernape12/8/2018, 2:15:47 PM1 votes

Ekko is fine. He needs no buffs nor nerfs.