Buff AP Junglers

Cutey eGirl owo·1/1/2019, 7:45:22 PM·12 votes·6,005 views

In patch 6.1 when Runic Echoes was added, AP Junglers went wild, specifically Evelynn, Elise and Nidalee. (Mainly Elise)

It had 10% movement speed on it which was really helpful to a lot of the ap junglers and helped them gank more often.

in patch 6.2 one patch after the release of it, Elise had her movement speed in human form and in spider form gutted because she used runic echoes too well.

in patch 6.4 the movement speed on runic echoes was nerfed from 10% to 7%, it helped tune down some of the junglers, but not gut them.

then theres a two year span filled with Elise nerfs, Nidalee nerfs, Evelynn nerfs, , and a lot of other nerfs.

in season 7 we get an update to the jungle which makes it a lot harder to kill

in season 8, we get more jungle changes making camps give less exp, making them harder to kill etc.

Later in season 8 Runic echoes loses 7% movement speed for 10% cdr

No compensation buffs for the champions that were nerfed because of runic echoes. Instead riot decided to leave them in the gutter.

Please Revert runic echoes, or buff TRADITIONAL ap junglers.

You guys changed runic echoes to favour troll picks like Brand and Zyra jg and gut traditional AP Junglers who have been there for years.

#RevertRunicEchoes #BuffElise #BuffREALAPJunglers

BUFF AP JUNGLERS 2019 <3

20 Comments

Tormentula1/2/2019, 1:54:33 AM5 votes

2.2 million MP diamond elise player here.

AP junglers are fine?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389945345594884098/529838417660608518/unknown.png?noredirect

There are 3 AP junglers (which historically is all we really see anyway) in the top 10 jungle spots, and Elise specifically is really good right now. Me of all people would be the first to ask for buffs, she's for once in a balanced spot.

No compensation buffs for the champions that were nerfed because of runic echoes. Instead riot decided to leave them in the gutter.

this is false.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389945345594884098/529838888726822913/unknown.png?noredirect

Elise got her speed nerfs reverted, and she got her W base damage increased slightly (while keeping the .15 ratio bonus she got when she got nerfed in season 7 earlier)

All of her current nerfs were targetted towards worlds (-3 AD, rappel CD, base W damage) not runic or anything else really, and she was literally never touched in season 6 besides the movement speed and W damage in the one patch to compensate for runic over buffing her., everything else was bug fixes, hardly a year spanned with Elise nerfs, and season 7 her first change was in 7.15, towards the later end of the year (if you don't want to count her MR per lvl buff since that was a global change.)

Evelynn was nerfed because of how good she is in general, keep in mind old eve was never really nerfed after runic afaik, and new evelynn came long after runic's balancing and was very strong throughout season 8, she's not even that bad right now.

Nidalee a few days ago was in the top 5 slots on op.gg, so I can't say she's struggling either.

AP doesn't need buffs, AD needs nerfs. AP only feels weak due to how incredibly overtuned AD is, and thats subjective since AP still is doing not too bad minus the shallow pool of AP junglers (and taliyah proved us its better that way)

Von Brohenheim1/1/2019, 9:44:25 PM5 votes

HE ATTACC HE PROTECC BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY HE AP JUNGLE ECC

Ekko

Blåbæret1/2/2019, 1:31:15 AM4 votes

The "Balance" team is intentionally keeping AP junglers in an unplayable state, so I wouldn't get my hopes up.

Meredith Stout1/1/2019, 8:00:40 PM2 votes

#BUFFTEEMO

Illabethe1/2/2019, 3:40:36 AM2 votes

Sorry you're leaving a few factors out:

  1. Jungle Trinkets are healing more than they were.

  2. The new Echo has 10-20 more AP than the one that had 10-7% Movement Speed.

  3. 10% CDR affects the jungler more than the move speed.

  4. You're trying to include Evelynn in your argument even though she was reworked.

  5. The Jungle changes pretty much opened up the jungle to any champ. Harder to kill my butt..... I can Jungle Soraka right now...

  6. The XP was restructured, not reduced. It's actually higher than it was, but you still haven't learned the appropriate paths.

  7. There are far more AP junglers, and Nidalee and Evelynn are both doing well. I even Jungle Zyra.

Cutey eGirl owo1/2/2019, 4:32:02 AM2 votes

#buffapjunglers2019

LordGeovanni1/2/2019, 9:44:23 AM1 votes

id like ap junglers that have to get into a melee range to build defenses but MAH ONE SHOT BUILD and its not damage effeicent (that being exactly the point) being one shot by some one through your defenses by some one building no defenses isnt fun especially when you cant one shot them back because you are designed with actual draw backs while they arent.