What Are Your Guys' Opinions On Morgana atm?

SprixOk·9/29/2018, 6:30:58 PM·7 votes·5,530 views

Morgana From what I've been seeing and playing from morgana is that (in my opinion) is just in an amazing spot morgana can play both mid and support really well! she may have a little bit high mana costs (if you're spamming q and w) but her q stun can help fights a lot, her w gives fast wave clear and her e gives her immunity to stuns silences knockups hooks and gives a little bit of mr and her ult gives so much potential in fights and her whole kit has a great purpose and it fits her when you look at it whoever designed her did a fantastic job

42 Comments

DuskDaUmbreon9/29/2018, 7:02:54 PM6 votes

Eh. Midlane is anti-interactive, which can be nice to have in some instances, but is boring as fuck to play against.

Support is iffy. She's an enchanter when support, but one with an outright insane amount of damage on Q (legit that shit half-healths in late-game even with a support build) and that doesn't synergize well with most enchanter items, and that can't really survive her own ult without Zhonya's (whereas when mid she can opt into a item 3027 to survive instead).

She's currently like Karma, where she's stuck between two worlds, and doesn't really fit into either that well.

DODGEORLOSE9/29/2018, 6:41:18 PM6 votes

I main her not because she's fun, but because I enjoy the suffering of other people.

Boatwhistle9/29/2018, 6:51:42 PM5 votes

I think morgana has a Q root.

IxtaliKing9/29/2018, 11:34:31 PM2 votes

Overall I think Morgana is pretty well designed and her kit has aged quite well.

P - Her passive is functional, but seeing as she has an update coming with Kayle I wonder if something more interesting could be done here.

Q - Solid spell, doesn't **need **any work. If Riot wanted to get creative here they could allow her to charge the Q for extra range (like Xerath Q) or more damage/root. Something that retains the concept whilst making the spell more satisfying and adding skill expression.

W - For the most part this is a good spell, but should be a little more interactive for mid.

E - Perfect.

R - Seems solid.

SwiftKitten889/29/2018, 6:45:25 PM2 votes

well she is "decent" right now.. but i certainly wouldn't call her "strong"

in the proper hands she can do quite a lot. but there are supports that just frankly outclass her altogether.

the only real reason she is decent atm is because she counters Pyke's pull and stun rather nicely during landing phase with her shield.

outside of that. her passive got effectively removed as u no longer have ANY lane sustain

she lost ruby sightstone item cdr and the speed bonus passive onitem 3312 as well as the active

she lost the ability for her W to proc on multiple targets AND for it to proc on the same target more than once if they stayed in it for too long (you could get one proc per half second they stood in it.

they also increase the mana cost on her E by 30 at all ranks.

in season 7 when they announced the morg rework i was scared they would ruin her... but right now... im not... scared of that. they already made her a mockery of show she used to be in season 7.

its just the mere fact she happens to deny "puke" early thats makes her viable

Frickface9/30/2018, 3:56:06 AM2 votes

I think she's in a good place, and I'm looking forward to her update a lot. I can't wait to see a shiny new model with more than 14 voice lines. :D

Frosted Tips9/29/2018, 7:12:22 PM1 votes

Do something to black shield it is too strong if it can't be popped instantly, but too weak if it can be popped instantly.

Lord Poison9/30/2018, 3:14:40 AM1 votes

In my opinion, Morg really should be played more mid than support, after all, she was initially a mid laner. Now, I've seen a lot of ideas online, and guys, your creativity just blew me away! ^.^ It's debatable what they should change in Morg's kit, but here's an idea ; what about a power shift? Her Q and her E are, in my opinion, what shuffeled her over to bot lane, as they give so much utility, while her W, maxed first deals a lot of damage OVER TIME. And, I can imagine, playing her mid, to some players of course, doesn't seem like they have any control in terms of trades (just my opinion). What I propose is the following ; As Riot said, rework her passive and W, maybe giving her passive the ability to do more dmg to cc-ed enemies, WHILE her W retains all the sustain, no more in all her other abilities, and I'm speaking from only my perspective, but I haven't really felt a lot of pay off applying her passive using anything but her W on champions or cannon minions. :-D Anyways, guys, I can't wait for Morgana's update, I'm sure she will be the same Fallen Angel we all love. Also, I'm really exited for the Lore update and new voice lines we'll get, I just hope we get a lot of them, like over 10 minutes of dialogue would be just fine! :-D

Wilyum9/30/2018, 3:12:34 PM1 votes

Morgana is strong because of her kit. The ability to snare someone for 3 seconds is forever. Her ult and black shield can be the difference in a team fight.

Magia Erebea9/30/2018, 6:20:18 AM1 votes

I wouldn't say that Morgana is in an "amazing" spot. She's been indirectly nerfed by her primary support item changes over the last year or two. When they changed the way Spellthief's procs interact with her Tormented Soil, her W lost a LOT of it's power. It no longer feels rewarding to land a perfect placement because of the way that no matter what, it only gives one proc now. Not to mention that Tormented Soil is already fairly low damage and pretty expensive mana-wise. She also lost access to the active of Frost Queen's Claim unless building Twin Shadows. Due to the price, I find Twin Shadows to be an appropriate buy either as a luxury item when way ahead or in a game where Morgana is playing very defensive. The synergy the active has with her kit is still there, but for the price it really isn't worth it otherwise when there are other more important items to buy.

With that said, I do think she's in an okay spot. She's not oppressive, but she's also not weak. This is something I think is consistently true most of the time with her, something to attribute to her solid design. Though her kit has a couple of questionable abilities, it accomplishes the job, allows for varying play styles, and has withstood the test of time. The only thing I could really imagine Riot changing significantly would be her passive and maybe her ult. I think her Q and E are integral to her identity as a champion. She needs to keep her W for pushing power (as a control mage) and gold generation with Spellthief's. Her ult, while an anomaly in a champion that otherwise encourages safe play from a distance, is strong disruption (even if it can be difficult to activate the stun because of the 3 second delay).

That leaves her passive, which in the support role finds little use. She doesn't often attack jungle monsters. She doesn't often throw her Q at a cannon minion. It's only on the epic monsters and champions that it really comes into play, but even then is nearly unnoticeable unless building damage. I could see this passive being reworked into something new, or at least changed in a way to work better.

What I find very appealing about Morgana is how much of a generalist she is. She's like a jack of trades. She will never be a contender for the best at any particular attribute, but she can do it all. She can build tank or damage. She can be aggressive, initiate, farm, protect, peel, CC. She's viable support and mid without being troublesome. I haven't seen it in awhile, but this was also true for her in top lane for a long time. She can (I think?) still jungle.

I'm very, very, very much looking forward to her updated lore, voice lines, interactions, and models. I actually bought Sinful Succulence despite being in love with Bewitching and Ghost Bride because I'm reckless and willing to bet on its updated model coming out sweet.

WeaselRune9/30/2018, 10:55:20 AM1 votes

her q stun can help fights a lot...

Its not a stun... GTFO!!!

Just cant believe how many people think its a stun...

Frightning9/30/2018, 12:31:26 PM1 votes

Morgana's pretty great. 3 sec root is amazing on a basic ability. That it does a truckload of damage as well (300 base+90% AP at rank 5 iirc). Black Shield (E) is one of the best **** you's to enemy engage in the entire game, which makes her an excellent counter to the current bot lane meta (that favors engage over sustain). And her ult is actually really strong if the person playing knows when and where to use it in a fight. Passive and W might not seem that interesting but they do important things for her and really complete her kit (Q+W interaction is vital to her effectiveness), and passive is crucial to her solo laning; and btw she can actually jungle reasonably well).

tl;dr she's a great support rn and a good pick for mid when you just wanna perma-shove the lane against your opponent with relative impunity.

Tesladin9/29/2018, 7:51:19 PM1 votes

I agree its a good design

Tricky to play, you have to do many different things

Also I abn her when playing support because she sort of counters Thresh/Blitz/Leona