Annie doesn't lose her stun when she casts Q and the opponent goes invulnerable but Twisted Fate loses his gold card in the same situation. It's the same mechanic it should work the same way. Pls upvote to get this attention.
Quepha15 votes[{quoted}](name=Sexy Man Child,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JFAIOVsA,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-01-19T16:45:23.781+0000)
It's the same mechanic
The mechanics of those two abilities aren't even remotely similar.
IllegalBagel4 votesI feel like they are similar
Jew Stomper8 votesFeelings ≠ Facts.
Quepha12 votesI feel like they are similar
You feel like auto attacks are similar to spells?
IllegalBagel2 votesdidn't know giving my opinion would trigger people :P and tfs gold card is a spell
Kingdom Corn1 votesAnnie uses an ability and the stun is used after the q is DONE traveling... Golden card is a auto attack enhancer once the auto goes out of tf's hand so does gold card.
Mawootad2 votesI honestly wish they would behave similarly, I've missed too many stuns as Annie by casting qw and whiffing the w.
Ralanr2 votesPantheon's stun also goes on cooldown when the enemy goes untargetable if I remember correctly.
Overlord Forte2 votesThey're different mechanics.
Annie's spell is a targeted ability that relies on her spell registering a hit to trigger her stun passive. Popping her Q mid flight causes this flag to not trigger, so her passive isn't activated (and thus wasted).
Twisted Fate's cards are an auto-attack enhancer, and are subject to the rules governing auto attacks. This generally involves all effects being associated to an auto attack as it is launched. If it is interrupted, all effects are lost--so if you Zhonya's someone who threw a 1% crit chance auto attack, they won't have it available still on their next auto attack.
undesirable team1 votesTF's is an auto attack
ChaddyFantome2 votesTF's is an auto attack
It applies spell effects like 
tho.
EndlessSorcerer2 votesIt also applies Lich Bane.
ChaddyFantome2 votesIt also applies Lich Bane.
Lich Bane is on-hit tho.
EndlessSorcerer2 votesExactly.
Jet Sett1 votesAs much as I would love to be able to do this It'd probably feel a bit wonky, not to mention that It would make outplaying Twisted Fate less rewarding because anyone who goes untargetable or uses Zhonya's gets punished regardless of timing it right.
And it would make it so TF doesn't even have to think before uses his W on someone, because it's not like dodging it would help if he keeps it up anyways. All in all TF is pretty balanced right now and doesn't really need this buff to his W, especially considering it could very easily make him a good pick into his counters.
Azteryz2 votesmate im pretty sure he meant that annie should lose her stun not the other way around
also nice summoner icon <3
Jet Sett3 votesIn that case I agree.
Also, you got a pretty snazzy icon yourself ;)
Sexy Man Child1 votesYes, I meant exactly that. I'm a Fizz main and playing against a mage that isn't punished for choosing Q over W to stun is a real pain. It's able to be played around like anything else but any good Annie would just use their Q to bait the Fizz E and then stun them immediately after.
ProtestantCaesar1 votesThey should work the same way? Do you mean that Twisted Fate shouldn't lose his gold card? Or do you mean that Annie should lose her stun?
Perhaps Annie should lose her stun; she cast a spell, and her 5th spell is supposed to stun. Twisted Fate should still lose his gold card, though.
Azteryz2 votesim pretty sure he means that annie should lose her stun
Sexy Man Child1 votesUpvoted
Pupel1 votesHeres my thing. Annie is a short ranged mage. Her only real defense is she is so powerful in her range that people have to play around her CDs. TF has much more range and his CC is on a much shorter CD. TF can poke from afar before committing which is a option that Annie doesn't have. So I feel this is justified.
My Waifu Vanilla1 votesTF can also get into stun range quite a bit easier than Annie. Both usually prefer using it with flash, but Annie doesn't have a way to increase her ranges without it while TF can usually ult somewhat nearby to his target and get the stun off.
Jbels1 votesSame execution (Single target ability) NOT the same mechanic (Stacked passive ability versus activated ability)
MissMikasa1 votesRiot has already commented on the idea of Annie losing her stacks, and they like her way she is. Go look up her MYMU page, Beluga Whale comments on it and on other things. They won't do it so stop asking for it.
Sexy Man Child2 votesMYMU?
Azteryz2 votes"mid year mage update"
Sexy Man Child1 votesAhhh thanks
The Deckowner1 voteson cast and on hit/on atack are not the same.
Daddy Ants1 votesAnnie's stun is consumed by an offensive spell hit.
If the spell doesn't hit it won't consume.
TF's gold card is an auto attack.
Sexy Man Child1 votesNot sure I agree. If Annie's W or R wiffs it still consumed the stun. Are you implying that the spell hit another champion/minion? Or hit air?
Kubox1 votesQ is delayed, W and R aren't.
Let's say Annie's W/R required a specific target to be cast and then traveled to said target If that target became invulnerable while the spell was traveling to them, thus cancelling the spell, she would retain her passive.
Even easier, think of it this way : Q targets and enemy, R/W target an area. While an enemy can go invulnerable and make the spell disappear (thus not consuming the passive), the ground can't nor can Annie "miss" the ground.
Quite frankly, I can see the frustration and would agree that someone Zhonya-ing Annie's Q stun should make her lose it, but there's probably a lot of issues around it :
Either way, the end result ends up being a mess either for Zhonya users or Annie players.
RavenMagus1 votesIt's because W and R are both AOE's, so the game counts them as being successfully cast even if you don't hit anything.
But it doesn't register Q's stun proc until it actually hits a target, since it's a targeted spell.
Unless it hits a spellshield, then it will actually eat the stun too.
Daddy Ants1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sexy Man Child,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JFAIOVsA,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2017-01-19T20:01:40.651+0000)
Not sure I agree. If Annie's W or R wiffs it still consumed the stun. Are you implying that the spell hit another champion/minion? Or hit air?
q has to hit a champion/minion or monster to consume the stun.
Hitting Q into Yasuo's Windwall will not consume the stun = Working as Intended. Hitting Q into Sivir/Nocturne's Spell Shields WILL consume the stun = Intended.
Oelyk1 votesThey should add more animations to Annie's spells with stun to make em look more powerful, then fix that, Cause now it just feels like a little swirley dress that suddenly flies off Annies gut onto the enemy to stun them when her spell hits... Nah it should be powered into the spell, not just a little indicator her "sadist" mode is active.
Epicanian1 votesIt's different, because annie's Q is a targeted spell and TF's gold card is an enhanced autoattack. Annie loses the stun when the spell hits someone, but TF loses as soon as he autoattacks