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ADC Build: Lucian in Tank Meta

AkumaLuck·4/10/2015, 5:19:27 PM·3 votes·5,697 views

So for a while now it's been pretty standard to build IE + Shiv/ PD first on almost all ADCs. It's just sort of something I kind of accepted as the norm, despite the fact that I found it a little boring. Now I am not a good player by any means. I'm low elo, and I'm not gunna pretend I know everything about this game because it's quite obvious I don't.

That being said, I would like to get the opinion of some of the other ADC players out there, particularly Lucian players, on how you like to build him these days. I've gone over a few builds with a higher elo friend (Plat-ish elo) and would just like to get the communities thoughts. First thing to remember, and something I think people forget sometimes: This is low elo. Peel is not to be expected, and positioning is not by any means great. As I said, I'm low elo for a reason. In my mind, it seems that it might do me more good to not rush the typical IE+Shiv/Pd combo, as while it does maximize dps, it suffers in survivability. I feel like this is a really big problem now with the abundance of Cinderhulk junglers. I can't tell you how many games I've played where the enemy team as a triple tank combo that is hard for me personally to peel off.

Now I've composed about 4 builds from the talks I've had with my friend, ad I'd like to get more opinions. What builds do you like? What builds don't you like? What situation would you use these in? Or any other information you might like to provide. Not all of them are tank killing builds, just different ideas we had for different situations.

I've attached a text document with the builds and their early/mid game stats for you to look at.

Cheers and have a great day!

25 Comments

IcyPepper4/10/2015, 5:23:34 PM2 votes

Typically, I build my three core items, boots, and then two items I'll need to counter the enemy team. If they're hyper-burst, I'll grab a Bloodthirst (for shield) and a GA. If it's a tanky team, I'll grab a Botrk and Bloodthirst/GA.

Personally, this is my favorite Jinx build: item 3031 item 3046 item 3006 item 3035 item 3153 item 3072

GA is a more "safe" item, but bloodthirster gives me more survivability in a teamfight because the tank becomes a blood pool for me. As the adc, it is my job to focus the tank, and since some of my friends now how to position, I can handle them decently.

Think of the tank meta as the adc meta as well. You're allowed to flex your build a little. And bork's damage will scale to cinderhulk's HP increase!

Syn Zykan4/10/2015, 5:33:08 PM1 votes

IE first, it is his largest powerspike and should be done in almost any game (there are rare exceptions)

Then depending on what each teams respective powerspikes and team comps are I will either go for Bork second or Shiv. Bork if I need to tank bust or Shiv for general team fighting. Brutalizer item follows Bork, or blood thirster follows shiv. Last whisper is always item 4 followed by whatever situationally seems right for 5th slot and then boots ofc is the other item you finish when you feel is appropriate :P

So item 3031 item 3153 item 3142 item 3035 item 3046 item 3006 could be my tank busting build if they are a fairly heavy front line

item 3031 item 3087 item 3072 item 3035 item 3026 item 3006 can be my general teamfight build if they arent a heavy front line but have an assassin like zed

Sirsir4/10/2015, 6:43:10 PM1 votes

Shiv is kinda meh at the moment. It works very well on Lucian, its just that he doesn't need it since he already HAS waveclear, and it doesn't add that much damage to tanks since they will typically build some MR anyways. If your team is all AD, consider it, but in most cases don't bother.

Erockandroll4/10/2015, 8:05:17 PM1 votes

General answer to what to get is what ever will help you the most immediately.

BotRK is good against tanks, But you probably won't be facing tanks in the laning phase, so you can probably save that for later.

Based on some LCS builds. They may get item 1038 item 1037 but not actually finish IE right away. These 2 items give you 75 of the 80 AD that IE gives without the Crit chance. Though the Crit chance is unreliable and does not help you push down towers. Some would get item 3093 right after those two items just to accelerate their IE and either Shiv, or Ghost Blade, (either is pretty good on Lucian.)

Come mid game, Unless you need the health shred. Start at item 1053 and leave it their, while you finish your IE. This will give you some Sustain while massively increasing your DPS.

Buttigieg 20204/10/2015, 9:46:16 PM1 votes

I either go item 3031 into item 3046 when I win lane and I go into item 3087 when I go even or lose lane.

Dreadlocks4/11/2015, 4:13:24 AM1 votes

From the words of "imaqtpie" you only get Youmuus if you cant afford the "good stuff" being Shiv parts.

SlackerboyTC4/11/2015, 4:17:51 AM1 votes

For lucian I build in this optimal order(assuming nothing went downhill in laning) item 3031 item 3275 item 3046 item 3142 item 3153 item 3172 I focus on cdr and attack damage.

ABlueQuaker4/11/2015, 4:23:02 AM1 votes

It depends on the Champion. IE ---> Vamp Sceptre ---> PD is generally fine in terms of lifesteal if you have lifesteal quints and a Doran's Blade. If you're on a Trinity Force champion, however, BotRK or BT first are probably your better options.

windwolf7774/11/2015, 6:09:43 AM1 votes

I think I'm strange. For the most part I always get item 3153 even on champs that don't really scale by AS like Lucian . I mean, I eventually get the item 3031 / item 3035 among other items, but I just prefer botrk. In fact, I think that on most (m)ADCs (I refuse to call them marksmen), I go upgraded item 1001 , , item 3046 (/), go for the other of the previous I skipped, then get a situation item depending on the game. Usually either item 3087 , item 3065 , distiortion/hg boots, item 3142 , item 3026 or other situational items.

NoMonku4/11/2015, 6:29:37 AM1 votes

I personally prefer IE->shiv/PD. I get shiv if I need the waveclear, get avarice early on to farm, or if i have enough gold to get it(instead of PD). BT/BotRK rush isn't that great imo because the damage you do won't be as dangerous(no crit). If you really need sustain, a vamp scepter should be enough to get you through laning phase. Also LS is only good when you have enough damage and if you do rush BT/BotRK, you can sustain okay in lane, but it won't really mean much in teamfights if 4 tanks are jumping on you. You are better off getting more damage to kill them.

I used to like Ghostblade, but it falls off later in the game and its bad in the current meta with fights lasting longer so you'll be able to dish out more DPS with Shiv/PD then w/ GB.