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@Riot, playing on a sub 30 account is the most horrific thing I have ever experienced.

USG Obama·10/2/2017, 11:39:03 PM·7 votes·601 views

I'm not even talking about the sheer amount of blatant toxicity or trolling/griefing from players who have recently been banned or are smurfing and just don't give a crap, no.

I'm talking about the fact that I've played 8 games today on this level 19 account, and ALL eight games have matched me with or against plat and diamond players, while the rest of the teams are made up of sub 30s.

Almost every single one (and by that I mean 7/8) has been my team with lvl 19, lvl 16, lvl 22, lvl 14 and the enemy team being level 30 unranked, level 30 unranked, Diamond IV, Diamond I, Plat V. Or my team 3 sub 30s (lvl 16-20), one diamond IV, and enemy team Diamond II, Diamond IV, Plat 1, level 30 unranked, lvl 21.

The one, singular game, where the odds were stacked in our favor for once was 3 30s, one Plat 5, and me at 19, vs 1 diamond, and 3 sub 30s. I say that goes in our favor because more of us actually had runes and masteries than theirs. The very next game... genuinely brand new adc on our side vs 2 diamond players on enemy bot lane.

I have seen a handful of golds, but almost entirely it's plat and diamond. As many plat and diamond as there were 30s and sub 30s. Not. one. single. silver or bronze. Not one.

Can someone from Riot explain the absolutely freaking insanity behind this matchmaking system for normals? Why is the standard normal mmr for a level 19 averaging out to 1700? And how this is supposed to be even remotely new player friendly???

Please comment Riot.

EDIT: And before anyone asks, I've asked quite a few of the plat/diamonds "are you a duo with any of these sub 30s or 30s?" And they say NO. Some of them have even complained "why the $*@% is riot matching me with 20s???"

14 Comments

Crett10/2/2017, 11:49:17 PM3 votes

are you actually a new player? riot's system QUICKLY detects smurfs it seems like, and matches them up accordingly

deathofall8410/3/2017, 12:10:29 AM1 votes

So part of how they detect smurf accounts is through IP so if people are playing on the same computer as say a Diamond player their initial mmr is going to be through the roof and if some how they win those games they will maintain that mmr even harder still being new but having the equivalent mmr of a upper ranked player

SB Arneeman10/3/2017, 11:46:03 AM1 votes

They recently started matching pre-30 smurfs with plat-diamonds in normal games, and it's super annoying. A lot of the smurfs are lower ranked that that on their main account, and it's not evened out on both teams either, so if you get the lower level players on your botlane it's pretty much lost. If you add autofill into consideration, the game is pretty much decided before it starts with the extreme matchmaking differences. I always try to win normals and used to play with mostly diamonds, not under 30-smurfs.

PhDs Nuts10/5/2017, 1:14:00 PM1 votes

I played a normal game a couple days ago as a 4-man. Our random 5th was a level 19 with no runes or masteries (brand new player) that got assigned mid lane against a Plat 5. He was 100 cs down at 15 mins and the enemy Kassadin was 6/0.

USG Obama10/5/2017, 1:26:19 PM1 votes

https://i.imgur.com/DtgbpZF.png

what the actual FUCK riot

Darkdemon65310/5/2017, 1:39:36 PM1 votes

[{quoted}](name=USG Obama,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IohN09ym,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-10-02T23:39:03.402+0000) And how this is supposed to be even remotely new player friendly???

You're not a new player. Your experience is not what new players will experience. You have a far higher MMR than a true level 19 would, so you're getting matched with and against people who have far higher MMRs than true level 19s would have.

With that said, the matchmaking system is definitely garbage, especially pre-30. It is quite good at not putting new players with non-new players, though.