why is my kda good but my winrate sucks

BandleBooty69·12/6/2019, 3:59:11 PM·2 votes·4,018 views

just as the title says, i feel like i usually do really well with my champs, most of the time i can maintain a 2.20 or higher kda on most champs but i just suck at winning games my current ranked winrate is sitting at 47.8% pyke who is one of my favorite champs has a 2.35 kda but only a 33.33% winrate do i just suck or something? i need some tips to win more games or something because im tired of doing well but losing so many games or do i just actually suck or something

21 Comments

Metal Janna12/6/2019, 5:29:02 PM7 votes

2.35 KDA is actually pretty bad for a champion who brings nothing BUT the ability to kill to his team. Assassins have godlike 1v1 power and tons of escapes to cater to those players who want to "carry" by getting lots of kills without giving any. But Summoner's Rift isn't won by kills, and what assassins lose in exchange for that godlike dueling power is ability to deal with groups of enemies... Exactly what you'll be facing when the game-deciding teamfights go down late game where getting wiped out means losing more than one tower.

So you can either assassin harder (get some kills in other lanes to help your team get their ball rolling) or switch to something more useful to the team's effort. Something that brings splitpushing or zoning or engage to tip the teamfights in your favor.

Demented Lemur12/6/2019, 5:34:18 PM3 votes

Simple answer This game is not team deathmatch; therefore your KDA is not that important. This game is not call of duty.

Long answer

In a game where you have to destroy an objective in order to win, you need to do more than just kill an opponent. It does not matter if you can kill your opponent 10 times in a row and not die if you do not take any objectives after you kill them.

The idea that kda is important to winning a game is actually what loses people games sometimes. Instead of focusing on pushing and destroying towers after their lane opponent is dead ,some players will roam for more kills. Kills can help but of you dont do anything while your opponent is dead those kills are useless.

Tips

Focus on objectives more

CaptainAntiHeroz12/6/2019, 4:02:55 PM3 votes

could be a K/D/A player

players who, consciously or otherwise prioritize a nice score over winning

Morglics12/6/2019, 4:05:34 PM2 votes

you play pyke , probably you are just a bad player as every other pyke player, btw 2.2 kda seems very low imho mine is 3+ and i dont care at all about it

Smyrage12/6/2019, 6:24:44 PM1 votes

This game is still team game with more strategical aspects. Just because you can kill a lot of players, it doesn't mean immediately you are winning the game and you are actually carrying. Objectives decide everything. If you can't use your kills and the advantage they bring, then you will likely lose. I saw many e.g 30/3/10 players lose, because they kept sucking up every kill from the others and not using it for taking the objectives and this has some strategical drawbacks:

you are keeping your team underfed
you render yourself a high priority target due to the bounty
if you die, you are giving the enemy a huge boost
if you play too safe, you will end up sabotaging your team

Luckily KDA is only one aspect of performance, there is still CC score, Vision score, CS score, Objective score, Utility score etc.. From my experience map and objective control have the biggest impact on how the match goes. Even if you can't win teamfights you can still pressure the enemy to split up and then you can pick them down separately. If one strategy doesn't work, change it.

Kenneky12/6/2019, 6:45:56 PM1 votes

K/D/A doesn't win you games, but working as a team and competing objectives like killing dragons and destroying turrets does. You can be 1/13/8 as Top lane and still win a game If you are doing objectives.

Hi im 1212/6/2019, 8:15:15 PM1 votes

2,3 kda is weak nor does kda really matter for shit, honestly with all the free coaching offered out there its very easy to git gud you just have to ask for help and try.

Greenette12/6/2019, 10:44:12 PM1 votes

In games that I'm losing when people bring up their kda I always say the same thing:

Will your x/x/x kda win the game for us?

Its different in that its a per game kda and not a player average but the sentiment is still the same. Having a great score means nothing if your entire team, besides you, is paralyzed and unable to earn gold or take objectives safely.

You need to pinpoint why you're losing per game because your behaviors are obviously having an impact if you aren't able to elevate your team when you're fed.

Are you split pushing instead of team fighting? Are you never roaming when you have lane priority? Are you waiting to build important threshold items (% resistance pen, grievous wounds, situational defense from GA, Zhonya's etc)? Are you ignoring objectives? Are you taking towers too fast or too slow?

The most important thing you must learn to do when fed is to affect the map with your lead. If you're the jungler just keep dog piling whatever lane is winning. If you're a solo laner, push and roam. If you're support coordinate with your jungler to take objectives, invade, and gank.

If you're sitting in lane with a 3/0/2 kda and not pushing down towers, taking drakes and Shelly, and not roaming you're effectively wasting your lead and letting the enemy catch up.

Map play is how you win, that's why pro games are 24/7 dog pile in their winning lanes. Get a numbers advantage, get a kill, get an objective. Spam your pings if you need to, type to your allies. If no one else will lead or at least suggest a direction to go in then you do it.

toby mcteague12/6/2019, 10:45:35 PM1 votes

KDA doesnt mean anything.

Assists dont reall mean anything either, because they are out of context. You can literally AA a champion once, walk away, and get an assist.

The only thing that matters is winrate.

Aatrox Airlines12/7/2019, 12:11:25 AM1 votes

kda doesn't win games. kda is a COMPLETELY irrelevant stat that just gives a rough (and often misleading) idea about how much gold the person has at a given moment. gold wins games, kda doesn't.

hashinshin is the best example. he climbs with consistently bad kdas (his kda doesn't usually go above 1.2), even while at the top of the soloq ladder.

Revech12/7/2019, 6:33:35 AM1 votes

Weak macro. Lack of usign op.gg to survey team at lobby start. K/d is all you can really control in a game.

Fizzletop12/6/2019, 4:25:31 PM1 votes

Consider this, I can maintain a 6.0 KDA and loose 100% of the time. Really think about it for a second, how is it possible, what does my style of play look like in game to have a 6.0 KDA but still loose every match? I don't take bad trades, I dont engage without advantage, maybe I even KS my team, and I run from all team fights where it's even odds of 2v2, 3v3, etc. I dont take objectives... This is probably something close to how that would look.

Now this is probably an extreme example but, you get the idea.

My suggestion, start watching your replays and look for opportunities where you could of done more. Was there a chance to deep ward and track the jungler, was there a chance to roam river and help your jungle, was there a chance to roam mid, was there a chance to help secure a dragon, etc, etc, etc.

Linna Excel12/6/2019, 5:45:30 PM1 votes

You are doing a few things wrong.

2.2 KDA isn't that great for climbing. Needs to be closer to 3 IMO to consistently climb.
You aren't doing anything important after the kills, IE objectives. The goal of the game isn't to get kills, it's to take objectives and blow up the nexus.
You've got to better understand minion waves and managing them. In the early levels, minions can set up kills. After that, they set up objectives.

Lae12/6/2019, 6:15:22 PM1 votes

KDA just isn't a good measure of your impact in the game. It can be sometimes, depending on whats happening, but its not reliable at all. Try to focus on bringing up your damage, cc, and vision scores while keeping up a high kp. Kill participation can tell you how impactful you were in a game much better than your kda will.