Have Aurelion players considered that the rework isn't for them?

Moody P·8/31/2019, 2:04:08 PM·11 votes·1,802 views

Maybe it's for the rest of us? Have you thought about that?

Aurelion was not a healthy champion with the early game power he had, basically permanent priority of most lanes unless he was counterpicked. Riot made the right call by nerfing this low interaction strategy but keeping it possible (and not guaranteed) in the hands of a good player, and catering him more towards the scaling map dominance fantasy he was originally meant to play into. It might upset the original players but frankly, Riot made the correct call in rebalancing him for the betterment of the game.

I would definitely give this rework an A+ for Riots good work. These recent updates have all been very on point; Garen, Annie and Aurelion are getting some very good work.

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2Charmnot2Charm8/31/2019, 2:23:39 PM5 votes

They just mad they have to actually play PvP now instead of just ignoring the enemy laner's existence for the entirety of laning phase. [sg-miss-fortune]

Posui Gart8/31/2019, 3:24:21 PM5 votes

Step 1: create a champion with no combat mobility that can't fight in melee range, but give him nice sustained ranged aoe dps Step 2: give him a pure roam ability(that was back in mage class rework when midlaners played an unfunny game called "spam all spells in minions and roam") Step 3: for several years watch how players adapt to this by pushing+roaming instead of trying to lane against whatever hypermobile shit there is Step 4: suddenly cry "omg he is too strong at push+roam strategy, nerf it, and instead add some in-combat speed", ignoring his playerbase

Also

Maybe it's for the rest of us?

I would like to have Riven and Yasuo reworked to have their mobility removed. I don't care about their playerbase, its not for them, its for me and others who don't play those 2 champions

I would like to have ADCs reworked to have their AAs dodgeable. I don't care about their playerbase, its not for them, its for me and others who don't play ADCs

See how stupid that sounds?

Now I actually play him just because he is a fucking space dragon and because he is a constant aoe threat in lategame fights, not because of some roaming/pushing potential/low interaction etc. But wtf, he is a space dragon, not a speedy lizard that hit-and-runs with all that combat ms boosts

Oleandervine8/31/2019, 8:13:49 PM4 votes

Remember these words Moody, when Volibear's rework comes out. Cause lord knows, you'll probably be the loudest one in the room when that rolls around.

Bultz8/31/2019, 3:02:43 PM4 votes

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Maybe it's for the rest of us? Have you thought about that?

Aurelion was not a healthy champion with the early game power he had, basically permanent priority of most lanes unless he was counterpicked. Riot made the right call by nerfing this low interaction strategy but keeping it possible (and not guaranteed) in the hands of a good player, and catering him more towards the scaling map dominance fantasy he was originally meant to play into. It might upset the original players but frankly, Riot made the correct call in rebalancing him for the betterment of the game.

I would definitely give this rework an A+ for Riots good work. These recent updates have all been very on point; Garen, Annie and Aurelion are getting some very good work.

He needs a rework, but not for this reason. I mean your saying he wouldn’t interact with the laner, but any time a Asol tries to interact he dies. He was easily killed by anyone that got close, os of corse his only way of playing was the distance and safe game. He needs a rework because is isn’t usable for players other than top tier niche players.

Blakiepug8/31/2019, 3:10:01 PM4 votes

Now Aurelion Sol was not a healthy champion? AURELION SOL?!?!

I swear people will go to any lengths to defend reworks no matter how good or bad they wind up being. I'm really tired of seeing the response "their old kit was unhealthy for the game" used against literally anyone who says they don't like a rework. Like does that statement even have any value anymore?

What champion would you argue has a healthy kit if all of these champs who got reworked supposedly don't?

xDogMeatx8/31/2019, 3:18:24 PM3 votes

but the issue is this isnt AurelionSol anymore the way i see it he can be probs a top laner due to his speed boost. a normal AurelionSol is supposed to be chill and not worry about pressing 1 million buttons only just position their aa ranged W doing kinda meh damage threat zone. hes not a control mage anymore. thats what makes the rework dumb

Zardo8/31/2019, 2:22:01 PM3 votes

Don't forget about whenever aurelion sol used to be meta he not only had the greatest waveclear in the lane he also won trades against everyone but a select few assassins, so you literally could not interact with him even if you wanted to. He was one of those cases where if he's playable he's oppressive, so I agree, this rework was a change in the right direction.

SEKAI8/31/2019, 2:09:04 PM1 votes

We have to look at how effective ASol ends up being a good compromise for his old and new players alike.

Because if the rework fails to satisfy his old player while also failing to attract new players, then Houston is gonna hear about a problem.

I haven't actually read the detail of the rework (hence why I have not participated on the current forest fire), but I hope the transition is good.

14daysuspensionk8/31/2019, 2:40:15 PM1 votes

Better yet, do it for any mains of a specific champ when they're getting changes.