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@Riot: E-sports is killing Meta and Diversity

StegosaurusToast·2/15/2015, 5:16:23 AM·131 votes·7,729 views

With the Recent Smite Nerfs, Veigar and Morde Changes, a very clear point has been made by Riot. They don't care about players or anyone under Challenger, They only care about money, advertising and LC$BigPlay$. If you want a healthy game and meta, fix the champs that are already broken ( ) and stop making Mobility a part of everyone's kit, if everyone has mobility, then no one has mobility.

If you want diversity, consider this, how big is the LC$ Pool? maybe like 10 Top, 15 Mids, 15 Bot choices (including support) and 6 Jungle choices. That's 46/130 champions (roughly) That's only 30% of the champions that are actually picked in the meta, the others are left to rot. And think, remember when Jungle was a thing, and then how he got nerfed immediately for being out of what Riot said his meta picks were. That's a perfect example of destroying Off-Meta choices. I understand it causes trouble for people that choose the meta picks, if you can't make a pool that has everyone in it instead of less than 50% of the current champion roster, then you fucked up something fierce. Stop forcing your players into LC$BigPlay$ and let people have fun rather than getting brutally raped by the meta the players created. 2 Bot 1 Mid 1 Top and 1 Jungle, the players made the game like that, and Riot accepted it, but now instead of changing the meta, they are shoving Flashy Big Play$ champions down our throats without even listening to us.

Riot, Stop killing Diversity, you say "There is diversity" That is complete fucking lies, 30% of the champs are in the LC$ pool, THAT'S NOT EVEN A PASSING GRADE.

Riot: We're tired of mobility creep, and being forced into LC$BigPlays$, let the players choose their experience rather then giving them a 30% champ pool that you are FORCED to choose or you get reported, screamed at, and get raped by the LC$ Big Play$ champs that have kits that could be divided into 2 different champions.

TL;DR: Make the roster of Viable LC$ champs higher than 65 (half of 130) and then people would have fun instead of banning the same thing, counterplaying the same way and doing everything to LC$ standards. The LC$ and Ranked Queue are different, STOP forcing them to combine, it's not healthy and your just killing yourself in the end.

133 Comments

DrCyanide2/15/2015, 7:16:04 AM22 votes

The two or three Kennens I ran into tonight must be a coincidence. Couldn't be due to the EU LCS teams playing him.

PrinceOfStorms2/15/2015, 5:20:24 AM13 votes

The reason why there are so few champions picked at challenger level has less to do with balance, but more to do with champion design.

Challenger and pro players tend to favor the generalists that are good in many situations over the specialists that are very good in 1-2 situations and mediocre to bad in the rest. They also tend to pick early-game champions because there's no guarantee that mid-lategame champs will ever see their time to shine, whereas early game champs like Pantheon, Lee Sin, and Jarvan are good right out of the gate.

SlytherMinn2/15/2015, 5:19:12 AM12 votes

Riot is cashing out. 2015 is the last year of LoL due to better games coming out.

Digitality2/15/2015, 8:37:51 AM9 votes

You literally cannot kill metagaming.

SmokingPuffin2/15/2015, 7:41:46 AM7 votes

If they only cared about esports, why would they change Morde or Veigar at all?

PoE00dpWDk2/15/2015, 8:15:38 AM7 votes

I really hope they decide to keep Nemesis on, its got its problem and all, but in my first game over half the champs played were ones I have not seen played for months. Right now I am just liven it up in that mode playing with and against champs that I would normally never see.

lojician2/15/2015, 7:12:48 AM6 votes

I agree with most of what you said but it's completely false that they don't balance for people under challenger. The entire reason fighters suck (irelia excluded because she's some stupid assassin/fighter low counterplay thing which is needed to compete with all the low counterplay ranged champions) is because riot balances them for low elo where adcs just stand there dps racing them instead of kiting. Though I guess lissandra making prettier #LCSBIGPLAY$ might also have something to do with it.

Neo Cyrus2/15/2015, 2:59:15 PM6 votes

15 mid laners? I doubt there's that many.

Ahri's range on W and R was shit on so don't expect her to be picked very much in the LCS anymore. Her ability to do much except when she all-ins at melee range has gone down the shitter along with her win rate. It's exactly what everyone feared, if the Q speed made her viable she'd have more of her damage capability nerfed rather than the annoying speed nerfed. Prediction correct. Next.
Syndra was deleted Diana style. "Oppressive" "No counter play" "Tons of damage" "More catchphrases". Lowest win rate in the game and stun detection that's so shit that people think it's bugged since it never works. Low level Q damage literally equal to an auto attack. Good job Rito. That 48% win rate at every Elo not named Bronze sure was oppressive. It's not like DFG being deleted was enough of an unnecessary nerf.
Diana. LOL! This isn't mid 2012, look elsewhere.
Fizz can't 100-0 4000 HP 500 MR tanks anymore by breathing so he won't be picked very often in the LCS... until people realize his full combo still 100-0's tanks so long as he lands that impossible to miss R.
Cassiopeia was remade into something that has a passive that no one wants with 100% of her power being in her E. So naturally after people were left unsatisfied with the rework they then nerfed her E mana cost to 90 so the 0.01% of us who still played her would quit as well. I don't expect to see her in the LCS regularly again.
Ori which people bitch about so much has received tiny nerf after tiny nerf to the point that she has a shit win rate in high Elo and you don't see her in the LCS. Has there been a single pick of her this year?
Gragas despite being annoying as hell isn't very suitable as a midlaner anymore which is why you won't see him in the LCS as one. Support maybe, tanky top laning annoying bastard maybe, but not a mid laner.
Azir was recently nerfed reasonably hard. We've yet to see if he'll still be an LCS pick.
Lissandra is more of a top lane pick and can easily be bullied mid lane. Haven't most the Liss picks been top lane?
Lulu was a disease to mid lane and therefore nerfed as needed.
Ryze was a disease to the game and therefore nerfed as needed.

I think you get the point.

Let's count the remaining LCS mid laners: 1 - Zed 2 - Yasuo 3 - Xerath 4 - Zed 5 - LeBlanc 6 - Zed 7 - Ezreal (WTF? Fuck off.) 8 - Zed's shadow 9 - Zed's jock strap 10 - A 2 day old sandwich Zed forgot to eat

Did I miss anyone? Either way I can't see 15 mids being regularly picked, a lot are one-off picks.

Isefenoth2/15/2015, 3:26:11 PM3 votes

Actually the pro games seem more diverse than soloque. Jarvan mid, Ezreal mid, Maokai supp, Veigar supp, Sej supp etc... Top lane has had everything from tanks to bruisers to mages. Mid has long range mages(even first pick Xerath etc) to short range mages to assassins etc.

This has been one of the most fun seasons to play and watch for me(played from S3 preseason).

Kijitow2/15/2015, 5:33:05 PM3 votes

I promise that Riot cares as much about this as they do about East Coast ping...

rtbf2216514122/15/2015, 4:10:23 PM3 votes

Meta and diversity don't belong in the same sentence.

BlackSunNocturne2/15/2015, 6:58:23 PM2 votes

No, it's not Esports that's killing diversity. Esports makes the meta. That's it. It's the Community of Lemmings that follows Esports to the letter and acts like it's the end-all, be-all source for everything League-related that's killing diversity.

VDc0zCqe0w2/15/2015, 1:35:38 PM2 votes

" 10 Top, 15 Mids, 15 Bot choices (including support) and 6 Jungle choices"

thefuck are you smoking?

those numbers should be halved at least, it's Maokai, Sion, Rumble, Lissandra, Gnar, Renekton toplane (sometimes), not much more

same for every other role except maybe support

there is no way there are 6 jungle choices rotfl, there's J4, VI, Lee, Reksai (that after nerf is useless), and that's it

Sammystorm2/15/2015, 11:02:00 AM1 votes

eh competitiveness comes with any popular multiplayer game and causes meta's.