Why are you nerfing Nami, who has been balanced for so long, instead of buffing her counters?

Support 4 Lyfe·10/3/2018, 9:30:06 AM·54 votes·14,345 views

I mean, Nami hasn't been nerfed or buffed ever since season 5, that shows how balanced she is, her winrate was never that big and her ban rate is literally less than 0.2%, now all of a sudden she gets a nerf just because every other enchanter is garbage and got nerfed to oblivion, not only did you nerf her items, her runes & support items, now you're also nerfing her directly, I mean cmon, I've never seen a Nami ban in my life or that much complaint about her.

Not only did you insanely buff other engagers (Pyke, Thresh, Leona) but now you nerf the ONLY decent enchanter? Seriously?

Graves still has 54% winrate by the way, I guess the game is really about flashy plays and one-shots now, no place for champions that manage to keep their teammates alive when Riot is looking for flashy pro-plays and one-shots everywhere.

127 Comments

theChibiTina10/3/2018, 10:06:45 AM21 votes

They already nerfed sustain, defense, peel, and anything else that tries to prevent one-shotting and constant aggression. Why not nerf the last champion that has enough sustain and peel to allow for more passive play style because all the sustain and shield nerfs are what allowed her to be the strongest enchanter? I mean we could give back some sustain by reverting the support item cost or give more defense options, but then we'd have less constant fighting and more strategizing to get in better trades and why would we want that.

D357R0Y3R10/3/2018, 10:26:05 AM17 votes

we should avoid more powercreeping

ASCORBICAZID50010/3/2018, 9:45:48 AM16 votes

Because the balance team are filled with one dimensional set minds.

They either buff shit that doesn't need to be buffed or nerf shit that doesn't need to be nerfed, it's never "Lets try going alternative routes so we don't completely gutter the champions numbers/statistics". This is why I cannot fucking take them seriously anymore.

Kythers10/3/2018, 4:25:35 PM13 votes

they even did buff her counters Thresh Pyke last patch

paisy10/3/2018, 2:15:19 PM10 votes

Nami was buffed last season, just correcting bad info

SociopathFriend10/3/2018, 5:04:19 PM10 votes

Nami has been steadily complained about- not a lot but consistently- for having a high win-rate and a generalist kit to do basically everything. She also almost rarely sees pro play so insisting it's done for "flashy" plays makes no sense nor has Riot ever once stated they're looking for one shots. I'm a mastery 7 Nami support main- I can see why she warrants a love-tap nerf on her W. She isn't a heal-bot and isn't supposed to be.

And even if other champions are too strong- that doesn't mean it's not okay to tinker with Nami.

Daddy Ants10/3/2018, 12:04:19 PM9 votes

54% win rate and 16% play rate in high elo.

Ahri's getting nerfed as well.

Saloz Mat10/3/2018, 9:51:02 AM9 votes

according to lolalytics nami is god tier s+ for 5 patches in a row and i know why shes like the better verison of Soraka Lulu after the ardent\shield E champions nerf she gives tons of heal poke CC slow MS

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/tierlist/

Nami players on this Season dont even try to HIT Q since they always miss it. current Nami W rewarding so much..

this people i call them abusers changed Nami play style to a massive lane bully like A Renekton while Nami suppose not to be a Lane bullly this people also Made Soraka to a Lane bully as well with the E 100% hit poke on lane Riot should do something about that Support who can bully you dont need to have healing why Play Brand Zyra when you can Play Nami Soraka who can poke really good with easy effort and they also got safe Kit with healing

Sire Hippington10/3/2018, 3:16:27 PM8 votes

Yea, i'm usually not a fan of enchantres and still think sona and janna have toxic kits and are cancer² whenever they are strong, but that Nami nerf is totally out of the blue. She has no presence in pro, her soloQ performance is good, but nothing more, and nobody complains about her...so why exactly is she nerfed than there are sooooo many picks that are stronger and more problematic in both soloQ and proplay(like alistar...)?

Done2510/3/2018, 11:35:18 AM8 votes

Let's be honest. Nami's trading could be, and still is, hella oppressive if you were unable to trade back hard enough to out damage the self heal. This just makes her early game sustain slightly weaker. She's still a late game monster once she has some AP under her belt.

Trinity Ace10/3/2018, 12:13:38 PM8 votes

Nami is not balanced. Nami is overpowered.

TrikzterzArma10/3/2018, 12:09:34 PM7 votes

Because we don't need more buffs, we need more nerfs.__

Fisher No Chains10/3/2018, 10:36:31 AM7 votes

Nami’s been very strong for months now, I don’t see the issue here. Sure the nerf isn’t the best one they could come up with, but buffing her counters would be wrong. Nerf 1 champion instead of buffing 5, that’s how League needs to work.

Jaspers10/3/2018, 10:38:24 AM6 votes

Nami is getting a nerf, the game is officially unbalanced.

She had no changes (outside of the support changes in 5.22, she got a bit of mana regen, and rune reforged changes in 7.22) other than a buff to her Q cooldown, one of the hardest to land skill shots in the game, in 3 years. Even with Healing/Shielding power reduced, she suddenly has 53% WR and is healing too much? 'How?' is the real question. Why is Nami at 53% win rate and apparently in need of a nerf?

Wizard Blaze10/3/2018, 10:29:36 AM6 votes

God forbids this game requires brain to play. if you dont play some flashy champion who can wipe out your ass from the map with 1 or 2 hits you are not going to enjoy this game because some incompetent fools in balance team decided so

Chembaron Yamada10/3/2018, 11:05:28 AM4 votes

Nami has always been fairly strong in lane and with the change to the support gold items item 3302 item 3303 item 3301 making them cost 50 more gold, she became stronger.

Yes, she didn't get direct buffs. But allowing every support in the entire game to go into lane with 1 potion less made her own laning phase stronger in comparison, since she was always able to sustain and damage fairly well at the same time with her W. If the environment changes, champions can become stronger in comparison, because they are better at dealing with the new situation than others.

That's the case for Nami and the reason why she is absolute top tier as a support right now. As long as they don't want to revert the changes to the starting items, nerfing her seems reasonable.

Relia Fortune10/3/2018, 12:46:16 PM4 votes

They want adcs to suffer more than they already have. Let's continue to let these abominations 1v2 bot lane. Pyke

Zeref10/3/2018, 6:17:46 PM4 votes

I love nami, she's one of my favorite supports, but to pretend like she hasn't been the top support ever since Janna was gutted is silly. She currently sits at a 52.76% winrate, with over a 10% pick rate. Even before Janna was nerfed to the ground, she already came a close second.

I know that the shift in meta has caused her popularity to rise even more, especially with her ability to damage and heal in one spell. I disagree with Riot's approach toward gutting all enchanters and really hope this change doesn't make it out of PBE.

InTheory10/3/2018, 12:52:40 PM3 votes

Reminder that today there should be Meddler's Quick gameplay Thoughts again. I'm definately posting there about this thing. Don't forget that this is basically the best chance to get Riot's attention on our opinions.

Spank the Fox10/3/2018, 12:13:39 PM2 votes

Be nice if you said what nerf she was getting so we can assess the magnitude of it.

Ranmaru10/3/2018, 2:59:03 PM2 votes

about time

Deadly Flows10/3/2018, 10:09:16 PM2 votes

https://imgur.com/vHWEhZG

Im not saying shes busted, I actually like playing against namis because its easy to one shot them compared to a Alistar/Pyke/Leona. But im guessing shes just nerfed because shes popular in pro play, and riot wants new unique champs in pro play.

BLIGHTBRINGER10/3/2018, 10:58:31 AM1 votes

While I agree with you, she's just kinda beating most healing/shielding based supports.

She has strong CC (Q, R), Utility (Bonus Movement Speed on every ability because of Passive, and E x3 AA slow peel, and a heal on top of it all).

It's a case that either she needs to be nerfed, or other weaker supports need to be buffed.