The meta abuse is so real

Big Ol Idiot Man·5/16/2017, 9:58:42 AM·2 votes·2,315 views

I recently picked up Ezreal jungle, because I find it fun and it actually works pretty well. But even when I do well, I get NOTHING but flame, from both teams. I can be 6 and 0 and I get called a troll and told I suck.

Just cuz it isn't meta doesn't make everything it does trolling or intentional feeding.

A sampling of my favorite flames so far:

"Thanks for the free LP Ez" Was 6 and 2, mid kat was 0 and 5

"Are we reporting this f****** troll? I assume so" Was 5 and 4

"Maybe if you picked a real jungler you would have won" Was 2 and 1

(Will edit as more hilarious quotes come along)

Edit: "Jungle Ez? More like get reported"

Edit 2: "Jungle Ez or Jungle Leo? Which is better? Who wins?" (Answer: Ezreal)

Edit 3: "If this works I'll gift you a skin" (Didn't get a skin, but I was just an assist bot so shrug)

69 Comments

MrHaZeYo5/16/2017, 10:30:40 AM4 votes

In theory anything can work anywhere, but their are reasons why it isn't ideal.

Ez has no cc, no strong wave clear, no durability. weak ganks, weak invades. He just isn't ideal as a jungler.

You're currently 1-4 (plus how you finish in you're current game) in the last 5 (6) matches, as JG EZ, I mean i understand you're not trolling but can't you see why others would think so?

It's one thing to play champions out of the current meta, but to play complete bonker picks is another.

MysterQ5/16/2017, 12:34:04 PM4 votes

I'm open to trying new and fun things. But your attitude in this thread is terrible. You come in here seeking help, but then you just tell everyone they are wrong. If you lose, of course your team will be upset at you. You can say it isn't your fault look at my scoreline, but the scoreline doesn't tell the whole game. If I just run away and never gank I wouldn't have any deaths either, but I wouldn't be a good jungler. If you win, unless you are fed beyond belief, I would imagine teammates will say we could have won easier with a real jg main.

Someone said it looked fun. I have seen it in someone's match history once. You can do it if you want. But don't expect praise from anyone unless you truly do something great.

Frightning5/16/2017, 1:10:53 PM2 votes

Ezreal doesn't have the tools that would lead me to believe that he is actually good in the jungle position (I could be wrong). That's not to say that you can't make it work. I've played plenty of champs in positions that they aren't good at and made it work, but even in those instances, I often recognized that the champion wasn't a good pick, and I won because I played better (or got carried by allies that played well and/or got fed).

So if I were to pick ez jg, I first of all, wouldn't do it in ranked (dunno if you were planning to take him there or not, but don't, unless you're very sure that he's actually a good jungle pick, not just a passable jg pick), but I would consider it ok in norms so long as you actually apply yourself to playing the role and champion effectively (does mean you'll do well, but I want to see that are at least trying to do the job your role and position are supposed to do). Blind normals is the 'casual' queue in this game (and it kind irks me when people try to enforce the meta in blind norms, of all the modes in this game, blind norms is THE mode to experiment in, if you don't want people experimenting in your games so much, play draft or better yet, ranked), that's where I'd try it out first.

I should add that I've played a ton of off-meta stuff, most of it quite successfully mainly because I know what things a champion needs to be able to perform in a given position. Most of the few things that haven't worked so well have generally been champions I figured wouldn't be good at a role, but decided to try it anyways to see (and confirmed that my understand wasn't wrong).

Scary Door5/16/2017, 2:40:28 PM2 votes

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I recently picked up Ezreal jungle, because

Literally stopped right there.

If you play Ezreal jungle, then you should be prepared to lose a lot of games and get reported by teammates frequently. Not saying I would report you for playing off-meta, but don't think for a minute I would speak up in your defense to our team and ask them to stop piling on you for being ineffective or useless in games.

Jinzo Torrance5/16/2017, 7:14:53 PM2 votes

You have to be banned from Riot, then people will agree with you.

Hallbuster5/16/2017, 9:55:30 PM2 votes

You guys are a bunch of hypocrites. Counter jungle nunu is also off-meta and upset a lot of players but when he got a 14-day ban handed to him, you were all rooting for him.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/FrILlWp7-14-day-ban-because-playing-nunu-support-with-smite-is-stealing-other-peoples-roles

CannonLordFreed5/16/2017, 1:49:35 PM2 votes

It might have something to do with Ezreal not having any of the tools a good jungler would need. I'm all for off meta picks, I played old Galio support all the time and got mastery 7 doing it, but he has the tools in his kit to be a good support. Ezreal lacks most of the tools a jungler has. Specifically: Clearing speed, Gank Potential, Any way to contest objectives, bulk and sustain, and compared to other meta junglers, his mobility is almost nonexistent. The only thing he has going for him is his ultimate, and even then, it's not great. Sure it will get you an assist or maybe a kill, but then the enemy team knows that you're incredibly easy to deal with and have very little control over the game for the next minute at least. These are important things to look at if you want to play off meta or weird picks. You need to know why a champion is off meta, and what they can potentially bring to a role that a meta champion won't. Ezreal brings his ultimate. And it's not that great, and then he doesn't make up for it with the rest of his kit.

AgeOfTheMage5/16/2017, 12:33:56 PM2 votes

mean, with off meta it's eithr you do good and allies don't complain, or you fail and allies think you're trolling,. I mean, my friend went ezreal jg and did great, he is an adc main tjhough

Martyrofsand5/17/2017, 2:57:03 AM1 votes

If your doing it in normals then who cares, they are there to piss around and have fun anyway so I don't care what you pick.

That said it's a completely different story in ranked. You are talking about a mode in which people are playing to challenge themselves to be the best they can be and to attain the highest level they can. If you play something that is intentionally suboptimal without a damn good reason then sorry that is selfish and entitled as you are intentionally making the game harder for 4 other people simply because you like it.

That doesn't mean sometimes something stupid off meta can't be used. Hell I've ran Morgana top lane before because at the time I didn't have a top lane champ and because my opponent was playing Yas top, and the Morg/Yas match-up is something I am very familiar with and good at. It worked for the lane as well as for our game and we ended up winning with it.

The thing is though you are going to have a hell of a time justfiying Ezreal jungle. "But we need an ADC" well there's Graves and Kindred both of which do the job significantly better than Ezreal does while bringing more to the team via their utility. If you need more damage there are assassins junglers like Kha/Rengar/Vi and hell even Master Yi.

Simply put there really isn't a justification beyond "I just wanna" to play Ezreal in the jungle, which as I said if your doing it in normals then whatever have fun and be as silly as you want, but if you are doing it in ranked than frankly you deserve what you get as you are literally telling your 4 other teammates you don't give a damn about them and you are going to do whatever you want. Just so you know that is why you are getting flamed, it isn't because "off meta" it's because by picking Ez jungle you are telling your teammates to go fuck themselves you are going to do what you want.