SO today LCS proved how Strong jungle 
is do you guy's think she need nerf's ???
If you can please leave as to why you think she doe's or not.
EDIT: seems people think it's base off LCS only she is very strong in solo-Q too.
THEY PICKED CHAMP X IN LCS SO CHAMP X IS BROKEN OP PLZ NEEERF THEY PICKED CHAMP Y IN LCS SO CHAMP Y IS BROKEN OP PLZ NEEERF THEY PICKED CHAMP Z IN LCS SO CHAMP Z IS BROKEN OP PLZ NEEERF
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RITO WHY ARE SO FEW CHAMPS PICKED IN LCS
And this thread is why the lol community is disgusting.
Last week:
OMG J4 AND LEE DOMINATE THE JUNGLE, RITO PLEASE DO SMTH.
This week:
OMG NIDALEE CAN JUNGLE, STONE HER NOW.
Why would being played in two LCS games mean nerfs? If Nid deserves nerfs then I dread to see the state of Elise when she gets yet another round for being played.
I don't know if she is strong or not, but I wouldn't say nerf her haha. I'm glad someone else is getting jungle play :).
I personally think Nidalee with any build is brokenly strong. She out sustains, outruns, and out damages nearly anyone against her.
Tbh, nidalee shouldn't be a jungler, and if you were to balance her around her ability to jungle, she'd be trash tier anywhere else. Why riot made the change they did last patch is kinda beyond me, they should revert it, or at least reduce the damage amp to monsters. Otherwise, changes will heavily weaken her top/mid strength, which doesn't need to be touched.
I think her spears should not snare monsters, only her traps. And maybe make the duration scale with rank. 4 seconds from her spear and traps is nearly enough time to completely clear a camp from what I have seen.
Riot will just revert the QoL buffs to Nidalee if players want to abuse them.
OP is a scumbag
This thread is a perfect example of why this game is so terrible right now.
So, I'm something of a mid lane AP Nidalee main, I kind of have a strong opinion about this. Basically I think AP Nidalee jungle is going to fall off in a few weeks time even if she doesn't get nerfed. Maybe I'll eat my words, I don't know, her win rates have gone up in the past week or so. If they do "nerf" anything though, I think they'll just change her hunt reset passive so she can't reset her pounce multiple times in a jungle camp (killing units is probably fair game, but IIRC she can reset the pounce on hunted monsters multiple times, instead of just once per monster), since that's just abusive and I'm pretty sure isn't working as intended (Edit: I remembered incorrectly or they stealth fixed it; pounce only resets once per hunted monster. I did however, learn of another abusive mechanic that I think is unintended, where the root with the hunt passive allows Nidalee to soft leash for herself; basically a Nidalee-specific loophole to the soft-leash changes they made that killed all the ranged junglers before, which is why I think it's unintended. I think the intended use for the root is to make it easier for Nidalee to pounce to jungle monsters after throwing a max range spear, since they'll usually walk outside of your pounce range if you are on the other side of the wall. A solution would just be to make the root occur at "max range" damage, 1300-1500 range, so that she'll have to be well outside her auto attack range to root monsters). I honestly don't think they'll take any damage off of her, because, as you saw, her damage isn't that threatening coming from a jungle Nidalee in the mid game (early game she's got a lot of burst, but that's kind of the only window she has to snowball herself), since she's behind in gold compared to a solo laner.
Sven got 4 early kills to snowball him and then what? He was basically just healing people the rest of the game. That's all AP Nidalee provides; damage, heals, and a bit of 'vision' with her traps. She's not building tanky so your team is down a traditional front liner in their jungle; even an assassin like Kha'Zix or Rengar builds tank after like two damage items, sometimes earlier. She's naturally down in gold because she's in the jungle, so her damage in the mid game isn't fantastic unless she gets insanely fed. She doesn't have any CC to set up kills for anyone other than herself. You basically have to build a team around an under-fed mid laner, because she's not going to be donating many resources (kills, farm) to her team the way other junglers can afford to, since she needs the gold for items to be relevant. Maybe you stall for late game for her to get full build, but then everyone on the enemy team has a Banshee's Veil and your spears are practically useless unless someone else on your team is bringing poke or something to pop the Banshee's.
Couple that with the fact that she's innately difficult to play from the jungle even for pro players. Yeah, she's probably the most mobile champion in jungle in the game just because of her dash and her passive through brush, but landing a spear from the jungle into lane for a gank is one of the most difficult spears to hit (jungle -> jungle isn't bad since pathways are a bit more narrow, and if you're in lane, lane -> lane isn't bad either since you can afford to wait for a good opening, as well minions form barriers that make it easier to funnel spears around); it's traveling as slow as like a Morgana binding with like 1/5th of the hitbox; player movements are much more difficult to judge when you're coming from the side rather than coming from lane, and if you miss or you have to wait around for a good spear to line up, you're wasting a ton of time as a jungler where other junglers can just force a gank much more easily.
I watch a lot of Nightblue3, and it's been annoying me lately how high he's rating Nidalee jungle because I really disagree with him; heck I've seen him play games where he gets insanely fed in the early game, and then can't do anything for the rest of the game; basically the same thing that happened to Sven in SK's game.
Again, maybe I'll eat my words, I don't know, but in my mind coming from what I understand about AP Nidalee, knowing what a mid-lane AP Nidalee is capable of and seeing what a jungle Nidalee can do, I don't see jungle Nidalee being more than a passing fad just because of how she works as a champion and how the jungle works. Sure you can probably get away with her in solo-q, but you can get away with a lot of things in solo q, lol.
All I think is nid needs the takedown channged.
That's her biggest problem. She has a Garen ult on a VERY low CD. I believe 3 seconds considering most Nids build 40% CDR.
Her next issue is: You can't get away. You can't catch up. Pounce still has a 5 second cooldown, so 3 because of CDR, and 1.5 whenever she kills anything, or jumps to a hunted target. Pounce needs good decision making, or a cost. 10 second cooldown naturally, down to 3 when pouncing to hunted targets (1.5 on hunted champions), 1 second lower cooldown everytime she kills a target while it's on cooldown, or a 75 mana cost. This is a minor issue.
Final problem: Swipe. It just does not deal much damage. I think it needs a slightly higher AP ratio. .5 rather than the .45 and 5 more base at all levels.
I like seeing more being played, but the problem then becomes "Pro's only play the lowest risk, highest reward". All champs should have high risk and high reward. Everyone should have their own risks.
Olaf gets kited to shit, but utterly demolishes anyone he can reach. Right now the only risk is "can this champion get jumped on?"
Sorry for making my own thread, just checked the front page didn't use the search function. Good conversation here!
I don't think she necessarily needs nerfs, it's good to have strong champions in the jungle and the change here makes her strong for sure! Two things I've noticed while trying out jungle Nid:
If she doesn't get fed she won't have an easy game. Just like every other assassin, so WAI.
If she does get fed, *MAYBE * her clear time is too high. However, this IMO remains to be seen and will take some time to tell. I also can't think of a good fix for this (her clear isn't great without raw AP which is why I reached this possible conclusion)
People saying her spear does too much damage are the same people that have been complaining about Nida for years. Those people would rather just have the spear removed, and while this has been the point of much discussion and there has been a ton of back and forth about this, the reason those complaints are surfacing again is simply because people don't like getting hit with distance scaling skillshots. I don't think this is an issue with jungle nidalee specifically and thus don't agree with people calling for nerfs based off the recent jungle buffs. They are separate elements of her kit(yes related) but shouldn't be treated as the same.
Yeah not sure what Riot was thinking making Nidalee a jungler. A monster root on a ranged champion? What could possibly go wrong (players around for jungle 
need not answer.)
It doesn't matter if she deserves them. Nidalee is flashy enough to be the next LC$BIGPLAY-maker.
If Nidalee will revieve a nerf it will be to her passive. If it is anything else then it is uncalled for.
What build did they use?
I was in school so I couldn't watch the games. can someone tell me which teams used her so I can watch them later?
Isn't this what we've been asking for, though?
If we ask for more jungle variety, complain that J4 and Lee are breaking the Jungle, and then go complain about Riot making Jungle Nid viable, we'd be contradicting ourselves.
For nerfs, again I just think fixing her proccing her pounce reset more than once per monster is fine, since I'm pretty sure that isn't working as intended. When you're talking about reducing the damage amp, are you referring just to monsters? Because if it's champions too, that affects solo lane Nidalee a lot.
for monsters only- sorry, that was clear in the original post, but as i edited the second the words "to monsters" somehow got cut.
People are just crying because nid can be played again Zzzz Anytime nid is anywhere near viable everyone bitchs.
Search your feelings. (Of past posts and patch logs.) You now it to be true.
I imagine if Jungle Nid became too strong then the logical thing to do would be to put a damage cap for monsters on her Cougar Q.
I main nid mid. I recently took her jungle and the results are amazing. I don't want people jumping on the bandwagon and ruining it though. I'm scared they will nerf her and hurt her hunt debuff or mid lane game. I love nid so much since her rework and this recent change aimply game me more options for her, and jungle is actually fun again since I have options now
