bad teams yet i get punished

MAL1K42·3/1/2015, 9:04:28 PM·1 votes·1,349 views

I dont understand how i can play and be the best on the team but when 2 people make a mistake and we lose i cont. to lose points... its not fair that good players lose points because bad players messed up there has to be a better system

16 Comments

Ice Weasel X3/1/2015, 10:21:33 PM4 votes

Your Match History suggests that you're a support main. As a support main, I have to say that claiming to be the best on the team is pointless.

Let's take a look at your last two games:

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1746967562/49993479?tab=overview

  • The score was 18/18 at 34:24
  • You went 0/2/4.
  • This is roughly 22.2% kill participation. Everyone else was at 50% or higher.
  • Your KDA is 2. The lowest of your teammates had 2.25.
  • You placed 21 wards. At 34 minutes, this isn't awful. What we don't know is how efficiently they were placed.

Just from what's visible in match details, it looks like you were definitely part of the problem.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1746871939/49993479?tab=overview

  • The score was 65/55 at 1:06:22
  • You went 7/5/35
  • This is roughly 64.6% kill participation. You tied for highest with your ADC.
  • Your KDA is 8.4. You had the highest on your team. Second highest was Top with 3.36.
  • You placed 32 wards.
    • For a game that lasted over an hour, this is abysmal. The enemy ADC placed 26 with only a trinket.
    • Were you keeping Dragon warded? The enemy took 5 Dragons, and the late game ones didn't occur after a teamfight. That's a common occurrence when one team has no idea the Dragon's being taken.
  • You spammed Elixirs of Iron when you reached full build. You already had Mercury Treads.
    • Mercury Treads: 35% Tenacity
    • Elixir of Iron: 25% Tenacity
    • Mercury Treads & Elixir of Iron: 43.75% Tenacity
    • Elixir of Ruin: 250HP, 15% bonus damage to towers for you and minions, movement speed boost for minions. In my opinion, this should've been your elixir of choice to finish the game.

At a glance, it seems like you were the powerhouse of the team because of your kill stats. We just don't know for sure, though. Were you using your actives at the right times? Were you blowing all your skills and then retreating, or did you effectively peel for your carries? You were the primary tank. Typically you're the one who wants to take the brunt of the deaths. If you can die to let a carry limp away, dive and delay the enemy. Your team had four Barons to the enemy's zero. With that sort of advantage, you should've been able to end. If your teammates were twiddling their thumbs, it falls to you to get them moving. Don't stand there idly and blame them for being bad. Do something about it.

If you feel like your teammates are always the reason you lose, you're most likely wrong. Is it possible they're bad? Yes. Is it possible you're good? Yes. It's still very possible and likely that you're making mistakes that you don't realize. "You don't know what you don't know." It's also very possible that the other team is objectively better.

Deep Terror Nami3/1/2015, 9:10:52 PM2 votes

There is a better system; a better queue, rather. You have to play with a premade team.

I know what you're saying is that you don't want to lose LP because the rest of your team caused your loss and not you, but consider how people will play if they gain LP based on their personal score rather than if you won or lost;

People will play far more greedily than ever before They will farm CS when you need them They'll leave a fight so they don't die and get lower KDA They'll stand around and not use their abilities until the last second to KS from you

This is a team game. Personal score can NOT affect your ranking in any way, or it will ruin the game.

The Necron3/1/2015, 9:14:37 PM2 votes

oh wow someone else complaining about elo hell. Its been proven thousands of times not to exist, if you are good you will manage to make it higher. No one cares about your "elo hell" forum post

MAL1K423/5/2015, 8:08:12 PM1 votes

Drag was warded we lost that game because 2 players cont to go out and die for no reason

UnSyn Tailight3/1/2015, 9:05:50 PM1 votes

Before you claim you are good player , did you yell or flame at them?

MAL1K423/12/2015, 7:35:30 PM1 votes

If only i wasnt punished for being the best player on my team i should be rewarded for how well i do not punished because my team feeds and afks

Mimy3/1/2015, 9:26:20 PM1 votes
Randomonium3/1/2015, 9:36:08 PM1 votes

I went through a similar problem, ended up losing an absurd amount of games because of bad players, afkers, trolls, flamers, etc. You just have to work through it and focus on what you can improve on instead of focusing on your teammates flaws. As soon as I started doing that my win/loss ratio started to stabilize and now I'm slowly crawling my way back up.

Win/Lose ratio is the only way the ranked system works unfortunately (due to the problems listed by Valkyrie Witch.) If you play enough games everything should even out eventually (i.e. you should get as many bad players on your team as the enemy team gets on theirs.)

I think the bigger problem is Riot's matchmaking. They're getting better but there are still a lot of games where my team either gets stomped or we stomp them.