PSA there is nothing wrong with the new Rengar

Master Summoner·6/12/2017, 10:51:01 AM·8 votes·458 views

New rengar is an improvement from his old self.

His old Q sucked. Idk how u think it was good.

u all just used to how he once was and now suck with him now perhaps.

New rengar is actually fun to play and is decent top and jungle again.,

If assassins was meant to target one person only then why is talon around? why is ahri around? Leblanc MasterYi all aoe dmg

Rengar was a fine rework done by Riot.

6 Comments

Shatrox126/12/2017, 11:46:50 AM2 votes

No wonder a silver player like u dont know anything. Rengar is actually too strong. The concept of an assasin should be to kill one person ( the carry) and not like the entire enemy team.

Altonius Amakiir6/12/2017, 11:53:10 AM1 votes

Tldr; What your'e saying is factually and statistically wrong, and obviously so.

[{quoted}](name=Master Summoner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GyvOUikU,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-06-12T10:51:01.538+0000) u all just used to how he once was and now suck with him now perhaps.

Perhaps, why not just scream to the rooftops that you have no experience on this subject and don't know what you're talking about. At least try to hide the fact if you're going to try to force your opinion on someone as if it were fact.

Not only that, but the last time you played Rengar was two weeks ago and you're only mastery 1 on him. You have to at least play the champ to be able to make the statements you are making. Like how you said he is fun, or how you can say anything about his old kit versus his new kit.

As for whether he is decent, here are the statistics: lolalytics- 47.48% winrate jungle, 47.42 top lolking- 43.5% winrate leagueofgraphs- 46.7% winrate jungle, 46.8% winrate top champion.gg- 48.25% winrate jungle, 50.03% winrate top na.op.gg- 49.07% winrate jungle, 49.1% winrate top I'm going to count lolking as unusable(since support and mid are in that number as well), so the average is: 47.875% winrate jungle, 48.3375% winrate top Both of these are considered fairly low(although top is borderline decent). So you're a little wrong there.

Statistics aside(because that would be a scarecrow fallacy, you having mentioned whether he is decent), that is not the reason people are asking for changes. They are upset because he doesn't feel like Rengar anymore, his thematic and kit no longer matches, and they were promised he would still be an assassin(which is a large part of his thematic) but they changed him to a diver. You can see how upset people are with it by his playrate, it has dropped from 10% to 3.5% [league of graphs], 2/3 players just don't play him anymore.

A thematic of someone who hunts down powerful creatures, tracking and chasing them down doesn't fit with jumping into a battle and waling on them as they wale on you. His thematic suits a play-style of jump in, do a lot of damage, get out, if they aren't dead wait to pick them off in a bit. The complaints about his ult I have seen is that it also contradicts the thematic, you can't sneak up on your prey if they know when and what direction you are coming from, its just going to make them run away losing your chance to get them, it's now more of a herding tool strategy wise because of that. I also know there's a lot of complaints about his Q, but frankly I don't know what they're talking about, haven't played old or new Rengar, only against(at least one of us can admit that). Same thing with this aoe assassin stuff you mentioned, no idea what it's about, haven't even seen any people complaining about it befo

AfterTheFall6/12/2017, 11:58:06 AM1 votes

New rengar is awful. You used to have to practice the hell out of rengar with his old kit, in order to assassinate ppl you had to do his combo perfectly every time. New rengar all you have to do is right click on someone and press q....you win. Theres no skill or time dedication needed.

dolphinosplash246/12/2017, 12:13:26 PM1 votes

I agree with you. I enjoy playing new rengar. But dont state your opinion like its a fact. Not everyone is like you.

Hexs Fortune6/12/2017, 2:04:11 PM1 votes

Seems balanced at 49 -50 percent win rate

theyellowflash266/12/2017, 8:29:58 PM1 votes

Ahri doesnt have aoe dmg. She can only kill one target at a time. If anything spreading her fire wisps around makes her dmg worse. And just bc orb hits multiple people doesnt mean much since its not gonna one shot people on its own. Also Rengar's old q was broken thats why people liked it. The new one is broken too tho so eh.