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Why not just remove crit entirely?

Luxxum·12/24/2018, 7:30:52 AM·31 votes·11,301 views

Honestly, it is the reason for so many issues in league right now. By it's nature, all crit champs end up building pretty much exactly the same way since it's multiplicative damage makes building non-crit items super inefficient. This in turn makes lots of crit adcs play super similarly, due to both being auto-reliant and their power spikes basically being predetermined by the items they are buying. It basically forces those adcs into not having agency for most of the game, since if they did, their inherently powerful late game wouldn't have reasonable counterplay. I've seen some people suggesting turning crit into a flat % damage increase, but that really only gets rid of the rng aspect, while leaving the rest of crit's issues. So why not just get rid of it? Just make more unique attack damage items. Split essence reaver into the Mana passive and the cooldown refund passive, like it should have been. If you want crit-like elements in a champion's kit, just put it in their kits and make it unique to them. Thoughts?

21 Comments

xXSpearmint69Xx12/24/2018, 12:07:33 PM17 votes

Why not just remove Yasuo instead?

AR URF12/24/2018, 8:54:29 AM14 votes

I actually like to play onhit Vayne . I build item 3124 item 3153 item 3091 . It's quite fun and offers resistances toward mages. In the rare case that they go full ad team. I'll build item 3047 item 3742 item 3075 item 3026 . It's really fun to play like that. It's like my own little personal fuck you to the dmg meta.

Jinxalot12/24/2018, 8:58:49 AM9 votes

It would help spice things up. Have more options for adc. And they can create more AS items to replace the crit ones now. MF seems to be doing great with lethality.

Sire Hippington12/24/2018, 2:47:40 PM5 votes

prettymuch what i'm saying since S3...

saltran12/24/2018, 10:49:38 PM3 votes

Because it doesn't solve anything.

IG Ziko12/24/2018, 11:46:06 AM3 votes

I really like the idea. Replace crit items with new attack speed items that have AD or even some defensive stats on them.

Your Otter12/24/2018, 3:41:37 PM3 votes

What do you mean? Don't you enjoy getting one-shot by Yasuo Vayne Kaisa and so on?

ZephyrDrake12/25/2018, 1:12:43 AM3 votes

You can remove crit that won't do anything but completely destroy crit based champions. Why are you mentioning crit champions build path but not everyone else's? Most champions in the game have the same cookie cutter build so why do they feel different then? Oh right because their kits is what makes them feel different and not what they are building.

GFREEMEN12/25/2018, 3:05:17 AM3 votes

I would rather them remove cirt and add items and abilities that did this.

item 3087 30% attack speed 5% movement speed +1 Crit level

Unique passive: Shiv Lightning

Crit Level is a new stat that has 3 levels to it.

Level 1: Every 4th attack hits for 200% damage (150% for Ranged attacks) Level 2: Every 3rd attack hits for 200% damage (150% for Ranged attacks) Level 3: Every 2nd attack hits for 200% damage (150% for Ranged attacks)

All Ranged attacks (yes Yasuo Tornado too) is 150% damage.

Yasuo's Passive is he gets level 1 for free.

Tryn passive changes to three bars of Furry.
Every 3th attack gives him a level of Furry and does +33%% damage per level of Furry. It does not count as a crit level

Crit champs would build 3 crit items that USUALLY give attack speed as well but could give other stats.

Dope Solo12/25/2018, 1:41:40 AM2 votes

Yas already ruins every fucking game he's in, and it doesn't matter what team he's on.

Tomoe Gozen12/24/2018, 11:55:53 PM2 votes

If you want crit-like elements in a champion's kit, just put it in their kits and make it unique to them.

Riot then goes to make unique champions like Yas and his windwall and Akali and her shroud (only unique to them), people lose their minds at how this one thing they're able to do, is something that should have never existed because unique things are bad and Riot should feel bad.

Given how boards always go full circle, no matter the balance direction Riot takes, there will be a group of people complaining how this specific direction is terrible. Navigating this landscape and tying to appease these specific groups one way or the other, is like a walking into a minefield.

TheMonkeyKiing12/24/2018, 8:53:16 PM2 votes

I get this is a crazy idea, but why is it that most magic cannot crit except a small few things like statik shiv proc. Okay maybe magic crits would be op, but making ad crit is stupid strong vs magic then. Especially when generally magic damage costs mana and cooldown while crits and ad scale with auto attacks so when you don't have mana or cooldown, you still have damage in your autos..... meanwhile mages generally are squishy and are useless without mana or cooldowns.

The Great Duck12/24/2018, 11:21:52 AM2 votes

Crit? If you're relevant enough for that to matter before getting nuked in 0.5-1.5 seconds. And don't get me started on Lifesteal LOL

Eons312/25/2018, 10:51:39 AM1 votes

TBH they could just make crit how much of the damage gets converted to true damage. 100% crit yasuo would have 100% true damage. That being said, since its a inefficient stat, you can either have 60 lethality black cleaver zed with 500 ad, or 360 ad zed with 100% crit doing true damage to tanks and squishies. IT would make itemization be more based on the game than on the individual adc. Tho abilities would need to crit for it to be worth it.

Icy Hot Shoto12/25/2018, 1:17:14 AM1 votes

Like someone else said, if you remove crit than crit based champions will essentially need mini-reworks to be brought back into the game. Ashe for one literally relies on crit.

Instead of saying 'get rid of crit, that's the problem', look at people getting blown up by champions that don't go crit... such as Nasus, who doesn't usually go crit.

It's been said before, and will continue to be said. Stop buffing damage. Nerf it, and buff defense instead.

Eons312/25/2018, 10:54:32 AM1 votes

QUestion on the tryndamere thing, would the crit crit. That would be unhealthy.