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Junglers. Here are reasons why you are making your teams lose.

ItsCalledALance·2/29/2016, 12:54:52 AM·5 votes·582 views

  1. You gank, you steal the kill, and then you leave. You dont help push, you dont help pressure, you just wander into a lane, take the kill, then wander out.

  2. You ace the team, you dont push tab, to check death timers, you just go back to farming.

  3. you pick Yi, or Xin, or shyv or someone that needs sated, and you DO NOT GET IT before the 30 minute mark.

  4. you never ward. You never clear wards. no vision control.

  5. you gank from river or lane, you never come up behind the enemy, and you blow your gap closer BEFORE you get to the champ. They flash and uyou fail dive.

  6. you invade with jungle ryze. or something equally as useless.

  7. you gank losing lanes over and over accomplishing nothing, and rage at them for not "out playing"

  8. you smite red buff instead of Krugs, or you smite anything prior to contesting an objective like baron or dragon and do not have smite when we need it.

  9. you dont bring smite...for whatever reason.

and 10) you spend the entire game chasing down the enemy, when you could be taking objectives and pressuring.

There are 10 reasons why you are not helping your team. Dont care if you are 10/0 with 500 cs. Kills dont win games. the nexus doesn't suddenly blow up because you reached a certain kill amount.

14 Comments

JamesTiedye2/29/2016, 1:17:41 AM7 votes

As a jungle main some are true,some aren't. We gank losing lanes because they beg for ganks and complain if we don't gank them. Ganking from behind,near turret is dangerous as we might take a tower shot or two and then can be killed by enemy lane opponent. Ganking and "stealing" the kill would you rather the kill get away? You know how often you get flamed if you take a few cs and push out. Smiting red buff after clearing blue side is generally required or else you may need to back early.Clearing wards isn't just the junglers job,we have raptors and thats our only way to clear wards besides red trinket. I'm guessing youv'e never or rarely played the jungle role because if you did then maybe you'd understand.

Darkslayer852/29/2016, 1:27:27 AM2 votes

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  1. You gank, you steal the kill, and then you leave. You dont help push, you dont help pressure, you just wander into a lane, take the kill, then wander out.

  2. You ace the team, you dont push tab, to check death timers, you just go back to farming.

  3. you pick Yi, or Xin, or shyv or someone that needs sated, and you DO NOT GET IT before the 30 minute mark.

  4. you never ward. You never clear wards. no vision control.

  5. you gank from river or lane, you never come up behind the enemy, and you blow your gap closer BEFORE you get to the champ. They flash and uyou fail dive.

  6. you invade with jungle ryze. or something equally as useless.

  7. you gank losing lanes over and over accomplishing nothing, and rage at them for not "out playing"

  8. you smite red buff instead of Krugs, or you smite anything prior to contesting an objective like baron or dragon and do not have smite when we need it.

  9. you dont bring smite...for whatever reason.

and 10) you spend the entire game chasing down the enemy, when you could be taking objectives and pressuring.

There are 10 reasons why you are not helping your team. Dont care if you are 10/0 with 500 cs. Kills dont win games. the nexus doesn't suddenly blow up because you reached a certain kill amount.

1 is completely wrong. If we get the kill, it still helps you. The enemy is losing farm and you are farming in peace. Plus, why would I let you have a kill when you're a tank and I can snowball like mad. 2 is wrong. We keep farming because you don't let us tax you after our ganks. 3? Maybe stop asking for ganks, like all the time? 4 is partially true. This applies to some junglers, but most of the time, I'll ask you: Is the tribush warded? You're like: Wut is a tribush. 5 minutes later, you're like: Oh ok. That's what a tribush is. Yeah, I don't know if it's warded or not 5? Some junglers. Some of us do pretty well. 6 is completely false. Unless it's Runic Echoes Garen jg, off-meta picks are completely fine. 7 is fairly true. It depends on the jungler. 8. Why are you giving fucks about what we smite? And also, don't start drag if jungler says: No smite. 9... Wtf? 10, you do this in lane and get baited into 1 v 3s and then flame us for "not helping" while we take the Rift Herald and push a tower

PalPlays2/29/2016, 1:29:18 AM2 votes

  1. I gank, and take the kill ONLY if it is impossible for my laner to do so without dying. I push the lane if there is a chance of taking turret or if my ally needs to back

  2. I ace the team and immediately look towards the Rift Harry/Dragon/Turret to see if any are a more viable option, then take the objective with the most priority.

  3. I pick Shyvana, and get Sated by about 22 minutes, complete with an average of 3 successful ganks.

  4. I drop defensive pinks for the laners most susceptible to ganks, and maintain control of Scuttle Crab.

  5. I circle from midlane to behind the enemy, making sure that their Jungler is not there, then gank from behind. I save a gapcloser (depending on who I play) for if they attempt to flash.

  6. I invade the Jungle after watching an Elise attempt a toplane gank, waiting for her to pass, then killing her and taking her first blue. I then proceed, since I know it was a level 3 gank, to steal her red buff since I KNOW it's still up.

  7. I ward losing lanes in the hope I can countergank or turn a duel into a 2v1. Otherwise, I try to gank the lanes with champions that have the highest ability to assist.

  8. I save a smite charge at all times in case there is a smite duel that I need to participate in. I typically smite the Rapters or Wolves, depending on our and their comps.

  9. lol, there have been a couple times that I have indeed forgotten it (or champ select glitched, and completely randomized my sums). Somehow, I ended up carrying those two games.

and 10) My greatest peeve, though I see laners fall prey to kill greed more than Junglers. Look at my answer to 2.

I'm Jungle main, and this is how I roll.

Your Next Kill2/29/2016, 1:49:29 AM2 votes

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  1. You gank, you steal the kill, and then you leave. You dont help push, you dont help pressure, you just wander into a lane, take the kill, then wander out.

Yes, because we expect you to push the lane and get the CS. If the turret can be killed, most junglers help take the turret and then leave. We get you ahead by giving you the CS. Most times when I gank, I'm not trying to get the kill. If I can kill them and you can't, then yes I'll kill them. If you can kill them, then I'll let you get it.

2) You ace the team, you dont push tab, to check death timers, you just go back to farming.

Maybe we needed gold to get full build? Maybe we see that the team is pushing just fine and we can get a necessary item for the next teamfight?

  1. you pick Yi, or Xin, or shyv or someone that needs sated, and you DO NOT GET IT before the 30 minute mark.

Are you complaining about Yi and Xin, two of the strongest junglers right now? Come on, really?

Anyways, getting sated isn't that difficult. Just requires some powerfarming for a few minutes and then you stomp on the enemy team. In some games, a devourer jungler has to help the team out in certain situations, and this leads to a longer amount of time it takes to get sated. This is not necessarily a bad thing. Stopping the enemy team from taking a turret is better than getting sated 5 minutes earlier.

  1. you never ward. You never clear wards. no vision control.

Actually, warding is one of the main jobs of the jungler. Hell, they just added Tracker's Knife this preseason. Even with this, the task of warding varies with each game. All in all, warding is everybody's job.

  1. you gank from river or lane, you never come up behind the enemy, and you blow your gap closer BEFORE you get to the champ. They flash and uyou fail dive.

  2. you invade with jungle ryze. or something equally as useless.

You've been hurt before, I can tell.

7) you gank losing lanes over and over accomplishing nothing, and rage at them for not "out playing"

Yes, we try and gank losing lanes to get them back to an advantage again. Usually, ganking losing lanes accomplish alot. It could stop a push that would take a turret, it could burn a flash or ultimate, you could even kill them. A gank isn't only successful if it kills the enemy and takes a turret. If you can burn a flash or stop a push or make them recall with a gank, it was a success.

  1. you smite red buff instead of Krugs, or you smite anything prior to contesting an objective like baron or dragon and do not have smite when we need it.

Smiting red buff is actually really helpful if you would've needed to back originally. It is always important to keep your smite timers in check, and you should not do baron or dragon if it is not up. You can also force an early smite from the enemies when trying to steal drag or baron.

  1. you dont bring smite...for whatever reason.

If you don't bring smite you're not a jungler... lol. Plus, mistakes do happen, believe it or not. If you play smart and roam, you can still win even with a jungler without smite.

and 10) you spend the entire game chasing down the enemy, when you could be taking objectives and pressuring.

There are 10 reasons why you are not helping your team. Dont care if you are 10/0 with 500 cs. Kills dont win games. the nexus doesn't suddenly blow up because you reached a certain kill amount.

Your concept of what junglers are is very horribly wrong from what they actually are. Not sure if you're just raging because you had a bad jungler for a few games, but this is not what any decent jungler does. If you want to learn more, watch Nightblue3's stream, he's very helpful and has personally helped me improve my jungling.

BadmoonBC2/29/2016, 1:50:13 AM2 votes

All I'm going to say is this, When I first started this game I maimed jungle. Then I did solo q and realized that the jungled is blamed for absolutely everything. Your fiora is getting spanked by a nautilus top and she's 0-3 and just blaming you for everything, "OMG THIS FUCKING JUNGLER IS SUCH A NOOB AND WONT GANK MY LANE" Or my favorite, when every lane is getting raped, and your 5-0 and yet still "omg this JUNGLER just stealing kills and making us lose"

I still enjoy playing jungle. But now only do it norms games. I won't ranked jungle anymore. I like mid and top anyway, but my point is, I never flame my Jungler in solo q because I know what it's like to go through that hell.

#blamejungler

Mecha MaIphite2/29/2016, 2:32:10 AM2 votes

someone who does half of what you listed would lose regardless of where you put them

mike in the box2/29/2016, 2:43:35 AM2 votes

LOL I play jungle and my biggest complaint is that after successful gank my laners don't want to push the tower, they just want to farm. I guess there are bad players in all position.

WarlockLaw2/29/2016, 9:16:38 PM1 votes

You are being extremely generous by saying 30 minutes is the time sated should be had. If my team has a non-sated devour at 25 minutes I am both severely disappointed at the junglers ability to farm efficiently and considering whether or not I want to surrender.

Elisza Kitsune2/29/2016, 1:23:52 AM1 votes

I came across this one jungler playing Yi and one thing made me angry the most. He ganked a few times but when he saw the Fiora behind (0/2) he didn't bother to gank. And he clearly stated in chat he wasn't going to clean up the mess of a lane she had. I asked for Blue as Syndra(My mana was bothering me since I was playing against a Yasuo) he doesn't reply, he waits for me to poke it down with whatever remaining mana i had left and smited it saying "Lmao thanks" When i could've been in lane farming. I don't take offense when someone says no when i ask, but wasting your laner's time is a really jerky move :/

Myrmiron2/29/2016, 1:53:16 AM1 votes

All BS except for:

{quoted} Dont care if you are 10/0 with 500 cs. Kills dont win games. the nexus doesn't suddenly blow up because you reached a certain kill amount.