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Why Doesn't Pro Play Revolve Around AOE Ult Wombo's More?

Thistlemin·3/7/2017, 2:35:34 AM·4 votes·1,371 views

I've been playing league for a few years but only started watching a bit of pro play tournament matches the last 1-2 seasons. I'm curious what the reason is for mass AOE ultimate chaining not being a strategy I see employed much.

Are the pro players too good at saving and utilizing flash to dodge the aoe ults and then dominate the team fights? I'm always surprised to see matches revolve around objective control, but AOE so uncommonly used when there are over 100+ champions now and a ton of really nasty AOE team fight comps pro's could be running.

It seems like general utility is preferred (Karma/Ryze, etc.) over AOE disruption and chaining to dominate team fights.

Why does Afromo (or however you spell his username) play Braum instead of a more disruptive multi-dimensional support? I don't get it. I even like Braum, but he is very underwhelming in a lot of game conditions and only excels in a couple. If your team is losing or doesn't have an edge, Braum is not a support that can make plays to get you back in the game easily. His ultimate is very easy to sidestep due to his cast animation leap up and predictable directionality to it.

I did see some nice Nautilus play and Shen (I count his taunt as AOE).

Why are champions like Amumu and Zac rarely played? They see so impactful when I see them used in solo q and getting more AP into a lineup seems beneficial if you want to run Yas top or Jayce/Zed mid.

I'm just surprised teams don't build more around aoe all-in teams like Malphite/Nautilus support. One of 20 AOE ult top laners like Wukong, AOE jungler like Amumu/Zac, most AP mid's have an AOE ultimate so pick just about anyone to round out a comp.

Pro teams really don't draw heavy hard initiation teams and seem more risk averse preferring disengage and utility. Am I the only one just surprised teams don't stack AOE to control objectives when their ult's are up?

11 Comments

oSEXYPLATYPUSo3/7/2017, 2:46:32 AM5 votes

because in pro play when teams are super coordinated they are more aware of those combos and know how to either not bunch up, or fight in tight spaces , and or vs champs that rely on picking off someone ( aka rengar ) they know how to group and to ward and position correctly to not be flanked by him and let him get free kills

Aptest3/7/2017, 3:17:15 AM2 votes

It is like you said: the pros can dodge any telegraphed ability even with just a small speed boost and their threshhold for what is telegraphed is that it has a casting animation.

In addition builds in pro game are on the tanky side, which is bad for wombo teams. And the general fight in pro is fairly spread out. there's very little "everybody dogpiles onto the same person."

additionally pro teams play 4-1 and 1-3-1 a lot even with their standard compositions. if you traft a wombo team a pro team will just not give you your team fight.

BluePolarizer3/7/2017, 3:08:51 AM1 votes

Pros have very low ping in LCS and can get clutch flashes that are not possible for most solo queue players both due to mechanical ability and ping. Also, previous seasons were indeed very AOE heavy with Hecarim, Alistar, Orianna, etc. all on the same team at points (see 2016 worlds).

hhaavviikk3/7/2017, 5:06:12 AM1 votes

it worked about 3/4 years ago where amumu was pick/ban

WoonStruck3/7/2017, 5:07:51 AM1 votes

Because what's viable tends to be what's most bullshit now.

ThePikol3/7/2017, 7:32:29 AM1 votes

Rengar R in with Orianna ball, Ori Ults, Yasuo ults, Twitch ults

DemoGuide3/7/2017, 10:50:26 AM1 votes

With the amount of mobility in this game you just can't catch all enemies with a single aoe spell nowadays. Most of them will dash away with their escape spell as soon as they see your initiator approaching, resulting in wasted ultimate spell.

Warlord Scrap3/7/2017, 2:52:14 AM1 votes

pros have better mechanics and coordination so utility and forcing the enemy to make mistakes>taking risks. If you ever seen resovorair dogs the mr black argument explains solo Que the best. I have 5 guys that never met each other and no one wants to back down to strangers.