Karma's lategame is now amazing

Dunal·5/30/2015, 2:24:08 PM·32 votes·2,877 views

Her ult has basically no cooldown.

Get max CDR (usually ) 21 second base cooldown.

Land a Q (~4 seconds), W (9 seconds) and autoattack (1.5 seconds) then land a Q again (~4 seconds). It's now back off cooldown.

Use RQ+W and it's back within 3 seconds.

It's pretty insane. I have absolutely no idea why people were suggesting these were nerfs. It's not like her laning isn't still great, either.

I mean, sure you have less options for damage now, but when your Mantra feels like it doesn't have a cooldown, who cares? You can weave RQs with your REs regardless.

In one of the teamfights in my last game, I used my ult 7 times. 7.

30 Comments

kDrakari5/31/2015, 4:18:06 AM5 votes

I don't think anybody informed thought the changes were a nerf after they decided to keep the instant heal on RW. There were some people who thought the damage portion of her E was too Iconic or Unique to remove, but anybody who thought the changes would be a nerf simply don't understand Karma.

Solidair35/30/2015, 8:49:11 PM4 votes

I LOVE the change. My late r+w, even my early r+w feels more effective, and heals me to boot.

And her shield feels POWERFUL now, I can completely negate a fed Karthus ult on one target and greatly reduce damage on secondary targets. It feels really good.

Shout out to rickless abandon for all his work on it!

Hupsis5/30/2015, 2:30:32 PM4 votes

Yep. And mantra even lasts 8 seconds so you could activate it early and wait 7 seconds before a using a spell since the cooldown starts when you activate mantra instead of when you cast an empowered spell.

She's a beast. But that is only to be expected since other mages can deal at least as much damage as her from longer range (Lux, Xerath, Ziggs...).

AquariusGine5/31/2015, 5:57:20 AM3 votes

I went to test the changes. She may be better, but she's INCREDIBLY boring now. The shield bomb was the last thing cool about her

Earl Eulrich5/30/2015, 8:14:09 PM3 votes

because she´s still pretty boring to play and lacks the charm the champ originally had...they could make her kill anything she hits with q asap and i´d still be unhappy with her.

Blastermine5/30/2015, 3:36:48 PM2 votes

It's because her toplane got gutted with the removal of the heal on R+W. Her mid and support got buffed though.

Hasztalan25/30/2015, 2:38:06 PM2 votes

I'd swap that grail for morello but w/e.

ZombeezyJeezy5/30/2015, 6:57:05 PM2 votes

Was play Azir against Karma the other day, and with only Morello's and maxed Q she took 80% of my HP with that one skillshot.

That's pretty absurd but hey let's keep calling them "nerfs" to hide how stupidly strong she is now.

CleverExpletive5/30/2015, 6:50:34 PM1 votes

On Support Karma I've really grown to love item 3092 item 3165 item 3060 .

She turns into a bit of a siege monster. And if you get caught out, just item 3092 , Alt-e and wave bye as you run away.

Obviously not always practical, but with the right team it's a ton of fun.

esmelar5/30/2015, 8:22:13 PM1 votes

I have a question. Does the RW at max level roots for 3.25 seconds or am I reading it wrong?

Sugar Momma5/30/2015, 6:53:44 PM1 votes

I was facing an Ekko and Fiora yesterday as Karma , late game I could save my Ashe with a 1000 HP shield...

Extreme Troller5/30/2015, 3:17:31 PM1 votes

lolz. dont play her ap....

pro people play her ad tank. her aa animation is so cool too.

frozen mallet+trinity+spirit visage+botrk+CDR

and you can heal 48% missing health every 7sec. ans she can shield a lot. Her only problem is mana.