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Stealth, camouflage and Akali.

Dracocrash·9/11/2018, 10:55:59 PM·1 votes·1,667 views

So there's three types of invisibilities in the game right now. Camouflage - these tend to be long, but can be revealed by pink wards/ sweepers/ being within detection radius of the champion. Examples include : pyke W, twitch Q, eve R(passive)

Stealth : these tend to be used during a fight, rather than before it, and cannot be revealed by pink wards or sweepers. In return, the duration on these abilities tend to be short. (example - vayne RQ, kha ult)

Now, not only does is Akali's invisibility a new type of stealth, it also LASTS longer than most stealths, cannot be revealed by champion abilities that normally grant true vision, and grants immunity to tower shots as long as akali isn't attacking.

The whole counterplay to stealth was the fact that it is short since pink wards and sweepers don't work, but you removed EVERYTHING, leaving NO counterplay.

Why is this OK? how is this "good" design? please tell me, CT defenders.

EDIT : Yes, i know akali shroud is stationary, doesn't make a long duration stealth with no counterplay any less frustrating.

And no, the point isn't to walk away from her, the point is if she overextends its VERY hard to punish her.

18 Comments

DuskDaUmbreon9/11/2018, 10:59:22 PM5 votes

It does not grant immunity to tower shots. It means turrets won't target you unless you attack, which is a huge difference. Fizz becomes immune to turret shots. Akali just doesn't get shot at in the first place.

And Akali's shroud has always had a long duration. The reason for this is that it's stationary. It's the same reason for Teemo's passive being indefinite invisibility - it's limited to a single area.

You're also capable of walking away from her W.

And, of course, calling everyone that disagrees with you a "CertainlyT defender" does absolutely nothing to encourage any kind of discussion as well.

ModWulf Helhammer9/11/2018, 10:58:00 PM4 votes

It's in a set area you can walk away from.

Also, she can be revealed by true sight. She just can't be clicked.

AnAggravatedPimp9/11/2018, 11:10:59 PM2 votes

Twitch, Rengar, Eve, Kha'zix can all go invisible for a duration but cover massive stretches of area in said stealth. Akali can only move in a donut shape, she's just untargetable while stealthed. Riot p much gave her a stationary Vlad pool that still allows her to take non targeted damage.

Secondly look at the champs whole kit. Akali needs that stealth because Riot actually increased her time to kill by a bit, without some way of temporarily disengaging she would be forced to stand around and wait for her abilities to come back up or wander backwards out of cover to proc her passive, as a squishy assassin.

Third, there are other champs hav moves that can drop turret aggro: Fizz, Vlad, Zed, Ekko, Elise, Kayn and Lissandra all spring to mind while champions likr Tryn and Aatrox straight up don't hav to care about tower shots post 6. The "true stealth" meme just stuck because Akali can go invisible, untargetable and can't be revealed. It's not a wild concept just the first time it's been used together.

meowwow79/11/2018, 11:58:59 PM2 votes

doesn't sweeper have a red highlight of the champ regardless of type of stealth?

Alzon9/11/2018, 11:34:52 PM1 votes

You can walk away and then outplay her if she decides to chase without her shroud.

Prestige AkaIi9/13/2018, 7:12:37 PM1 votes

The counterplay is her being restricted to a small area during her stealth. She can still be revealed, just not targettable by point and click spells. I get that she's OP right now, I get that people don't like her new shroud, but I don't even think it's her strongest ability, and it's not that much stronger than before her rework.

It lasts 2 seconds longer than before at max rank, if you leave and re-enter it 4 - 6 times(i dont remember which) She was only revealed by very few things before her rework, and since she was restricted to that really small circle, it felt terrible to have her only defensive ability nullified by a point and click ability or pink ward. (looking at you lulu) I get that it's frustrating to go against it, and I agree the time should be reduced, but as a champion she's much less linear and statcheck and once she's balanced, I feel she'll be much healthier than old Akali.