It's never ever to do baron when the enemy jungler is around baron, if you have the lead just push for an inhib instead of risking losing baron. I am definitely tired of seeing people go for baron and getting out smited since there's always room for error.
Don't baron just push on.
it's really hard to push without baron against those champions
Or if 
is around and you don't have smite. It's hilarious to see the baron go from 1500 to zero in under half a second from one guy...
Wait Nunu can do the same at melee range
Or use Baron to bait.
But honestly it shouldn't take proplay to tell you not to take Baron when the enemy team is right there unless you are so powerful you will win even if they fight you (Baron shreds resists meaning the attacking team has a huge advantage). That or use Fog of War to bait it, threatening it and getting a pick or two means a free baron afterwards.
Three good times to do it.
Any other time it is always a high risk and often you could be better off doing something else.
I'm pretty confident in my smiting capabilities and I can easily say I've fucked up on too many occasions. I've also seen people fuck up smite or Baron/Elder calls even harder.
Enemy Team jungler or anyone that can easily steal (i.e. Lux, Ez, Vel) alive? Don't fucking do it. You think you can rush it with that Brand, Kalista, Trundle, Cass you have? You probably fucking can't.
i hate when noob players, generally the ones feeding, spam ping baron when the entire enemy team is up and mostly around topside. then for some reason we do baron and they wipe us
baron is overhyped, cause one bad fight means you jsut lost everything you gaineed from it
It's even worse when only half the team turns to fight. When someone walks into Baron while you're taking it, drop everything and punish them, don't sit there softening up Baron for them.
thank you for sharing this insite! tho i am not a jungler I have made baron calls that violate this plan before, because the jungler was the last one standing for example or if we're super fed and i want to force a play. thank yuo!
Baron plays require deep wards to spot the enemy coming, it requires your jungler to have smite, it requires their jungler to be dead, it requires your team to know they need to peel off the Baron when it gets low and zone the enemy away from the steal. It requires a tank, and it requires some good objective DPS on your team and present.
The potential for any of that to go wrong in solo Q is massive. Many junglers, and most non-junglers, don't know how to set up an objective play properly.
Also, it's really, really important for your team to realize it's actually easier for the aggressing (stealing) jungler to land a smite, than it is for the defending jungler. If you are taking Baron, and you have Quinn/Draven on your team, and they start trying to burst down the baron when it's low HP trying to help you secure - they are actually making the HP drop as erratically as possible - this makes it harder for their jungler to secure the smite. It also makes it easier for the enemy (stealing) jungler to land their smite. The best thing for your team to do when taking Baron is NOT to try to burst it down when it's low, it's to zone the enemy team off and let the jungler land the objective solo, smoothly: smooth is better than fast (erratic).
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Who needs a Jungler if I can solo baron as Morde at level 11?
Inhib is worth more than Baron anyway, so why bother getting Baron, whose whole purpose is to help you get towers/inhibs easier, when you can get said towers/inhibs without it?
I literally had this arguement with a jungler because I spam pinged the mid tower and then sat mid trying to take it instead of following our 200 HP Irelia and 500 hp Kha'Zix to Baron while the enemy jungler was up and clearing her buff near baron on a ward.
Actually had a game where we aced the enemy team, had 3 inhibs down, and winions were coming... and team stops anc asksed "Baron or end?" They chose baron and like 3 died. Pretty suire we still won that game, but jesus... we could have won so much sooner if people had jsut ended.
Bonus round: team, stop trying to outsmite a 
. It will never work.
If Nunu is near the objective, we have to kill or zone him before we pursue it. Stop. Please just stop.
And for the love of god, please stop griping at me for "missing smite" against the enemy when you try to do it anyway. Sigh.
Pro play comparisons to solo queue? You realize that is basically 2 different games right? 5 people talking to each other and building team comps to achieve a specific playstyle and goal vs 5 random champions doing random things all game?
yea even if u kill 2 other champs never baron. escpically if one of them is about 2 respawn and is a j4 with 
and there jg is zac. then j4 knocks up ur jg and then zac steal baron by flying from the side. QQ then ur jg flames and ask what happened
This so much. The most extreme cases I've seen a whole team dead, and ours opt for baron as opposed to taking two turrets aswell as inib.
Once they respawn we have a baron but there's a small chance of not actually getting any tower, a medium chance of getting one, very small of getting what we'd get by not getting baron.
ps: If you can read that congrats xD
