What's with the matchmaking?

Flyinguillotine·12/21/2017, 6:24:00 PM·52 votes·3,049 views

I'm bronze. I play in solo queue. But yesterday I got matched with a five man party consisting mostly of plats against five random bronze/silvers. What gives? We got predictably and handily roflstomped. I refuse to believe that there aren't enough bronze/silver solo players to go around, I've seen how many people hop on board the Yasuo hate threads. The only thing I can think of is that I was matched with them to shorten queue times. I don't know why riot can't get this into their heads. I guess all I can do is say it again:

Dear riot: I would much rather wait another minute or two for a fair match than save thirty seconds in order to get me into a completely one-sided game. I would rather wait another minute or two for the role I want than waste half an hour (or more likely twenty minutes and fifteen seconds) playing a role I don't know and am no good at. In your year in review video you stated that queue times had decreased by an average of 30%. I hope that this isn't what you're referring to, because if it is ... you haven't improved your matchmaking. You've just traded quality for expediency.

57 Comments

Nea10412/21/2017, 9:09:03 PM15 votes

Maybe you were on a winstrerak, and their matchmaking doesn't allow that :P Anyway, it's really flawed, and not since today...

RainbowIcee12/21/2017, 9:34:00 PM9 votes

Blind pick, Draft pick, and ranked have different elo system. So for example someone on Diamond can go against you in blind pick because their rank elo doesn't matter. Sure, it does demonstrate that the person is much more experience than you however that experience is only applied to ranked matches, there's like an invisible "elo ladder" in normals that has to be climbed too. This is to set up players vs people that are around their own skill levels. However things like what happened to you happened because those plat players probably don't play normals much so their normal elo is pretty low and yours may be higher than rank. So if we were to place elos on normals then i'd be like you're both silver 4 elo's in normal, but your ranked elo is bronze and theirs is Plat. Does that make sense ? So getting a match like this ever now and then it's common as it's a different system. They themselves in time would probably end up playing vs high diamond players and get rekt.

Karunamon12/21/2017, 8:22:11 PM4 votes

Dumb question, when did you play a ranked game last? You've been at Bronze 1 53LP since August.

I am Pacman12/21/2017, 10:16:39 PM4 votes

Where is this ranked game?

I see nothing but normals for the last couple days yet you say "But yesterday"

Honestly I'm not one to defend riots matchmaking but I'm calling bullshit till I see proof.

0DESTROYERZ012/22/2017, 2:39:10 AM4 votes

this is straight facts, when im playing with my silver friends, we have been getting multiple diamond and plat players in our games

Total Eclipse12/22/2017, 1:18:22 PM3 votes

This actually applies to ranked as well. I seriously dont mind waiting an additional 2 minutes in order to not get autofills in every role.

Whisper8712/21/2017, 9:46:21 PM3 votes

Is this even possible? Didn't they make it so you can't Q up with someone who is more than one tier away from you? So if you're bronze 1 the only possible way is for you play against 3 Plats or more is if there was someone lower ranked that you on the other team, which the game will not allow.

Are you sure you weren't looking at players who were Plat at one point maybe last season or earlier this season but no longer are? Also is this is a normal then I believe the answer is that they are MUCH looser with MMR matchmaking than in ranked.

As for your comments about the roles. Everyone needs to stop crying about getting off roled and trolling when they get off roled. It happens to all of us once in a while....learn the game. Don't learn how to play a couple champs, learn the game. Just accept that League is a game that rewards learning and pick a new game if you don't like it. I personally think we should go back to the system where you don't get to choose a role. Students of the game SHOULD have an innate advantage over one tricks and casuals. Also a big point that I think people disregard in this discussion but is very relevant is that learning the game from the perspective of other roles makes you better at your main role. So when you get off roled, don't troll or play half assed. Go try hard and you will learn things. Learning what goes through the head of a solo laner is helpful to a jungler. Learning what mid lane is all about affects how you play side lane. Learning how to support helps you ADC better. And so on and so forth, it's all tied together because League is a 10 player game with heavy interaction.

Catering to casuals and creating a nice little bubble for them to exist in is bad for the game as a whole. Blizzard listened to all the kids crying because those who sunk more time and energy into WOW had very clear advantages in terms of gear and cosmetic stuff among other things. So they removed some of the grind from the game, made it easier to get gear, made it easier to figure out your build and stat prioritization, essentially removed content. What happened? It nearly killed the game (this an exaggeration but you get the point). Now Riot has to focus on URF modes and releasing events and all kinds of crap that competitive players don't really care much about, all just to hold the attention of casuals. Like a parent shaking a rattle behind a camera to get their baby to smile for the picture.

Think of how sweet ranked queue would be if Riot took like %40 of the resources they dump into the "fun" modes and meaningless content, and instead spent it on things like balancing the game and quality of life changes.

CHRISERIN012/22/2017, 7:57:29 AM2 votes

Since you are talking about normals and NOT ranked, just don't. Normals is a throw away game anyway.