This is a serious question. I've had two people flame and blame because I didn't gank their lane after they died to their enemy laner a few times (sometimes the laner and jungler).
I always thought its a better use of your time to go to other lanes and get them far enough ahead to compensate for your losing lane. Am I wrong?
Thanks for the help.
Keep in mind ganking a losing lane is not always about your laner. You could be strong enough to fight the enemy laner, therefore assisting in your own ability to snowball, or perhaps you and your mid would want to go up and slow down the enemy snowball.
Sometimes all you have to do is show up and push the opponent out of lane, giving your laner some much needed free farm.
In the end it's the jungler's call, so those people who blamed you were wrong regardless of what you decided.
It's really just a judgement call. You can be damned if you do and damned if you dont. Depends on so much. Some champions especially long ranged ones can play safe and farm from a distance. A melee champ especially in top lane can have the lane frozen and get zoned. So not only is he behind in kills but denied cs and xp and the enemy top laner is going to spiral out of control while your top laner is nearly useless.
You can try to counteract the hyperfarmed top laner by snowballing bot lane, or bail your top laner out. If you decide to leave your top laner on an island and you don't snowball another lane you should expect the enemy top laner to carry hard.
I feel as if it honestly depends on how things are going. If they're dying multiple times because the mid-laner is outplaying them, that's one thing; I feel as if that'd be worthy of a gank to try and help them out. If they're behind purely because they keep on going overboard/hungry, then I'd take a different option and just farm or gank another lane. It also depends on how well the other lanes are doing, sometimes ganking a fed lane can turn the tables and make things worse. XD
TL;DR, Primarily yes, but sometimes you should help a brotha out.
The only time i gank a lane thats "feeding" is if i see my laner has a huge CS lead and is legit just dying to due the fed enemy jungler.
If you think you can kill the laner and the jungler is somewhere else then yea but if you think it a little sketchy or lets say tops losin and the other jung was seen at red then no
It's complicated honestly, I've had games where I would gank lanes that were relatively losing, and ended up being pointless despite killing the enemy laner (my teammate would still get outplayed, not push, etc.).
It's highly situational, but usually a yes for bot lane, sometimes for mid, and mostly no for top though (Baron isn't achieve capable til you win teamfights).
Jungler is the shot caller. You can easily tell who is a good jungler and who is not, not just from their ganking but from their teamfighting and rotations. Some people don't recognize that a jungler is not just a gank machine or that them personally losing lane and personally being unable to carry doesn't mean that the game is unwinnable - in fact, it might still be an extremely easy win, but then they start typing novels into chat whining about bad teammates instead of actually shutting up, stopping the feeding and being carryable.
Make your decision, make it absolutely, do not deviate from your decision.
There is no smart answer to your question. There are to many factors that go into it. Is your top lane some one who can snowball out of control if they catch up? Is the enemy top someone who could snowball instead and needs to be shut down? who is pushing?
There is no definite answer unfortunately. I will however say being seen by a ward isn't always a bad thing. You don't have to gank to help your laners. Just being seen is usually enough to force people back and let your lane catch up a bit safely.
I let them rot and I get flamed all the time.
I had one game i went bot twice and the ADC didn't follow up each time. I ended up dying on one occasion. So i decided not to gank bot again. I ended up feeding Mid and helping top while the ADC kept spamming that he is going to report me for feeding and being trash.
I told him no i will not help you bot lane since i don't like your play style, you have no awareness and probably wont help carry the game. Ohh! he got mad. He wouldn't stop bitching and talking with all his spamming that i am a feeder and a trash jungler for not ganking his lane.
I won the game with a personal score of 12/3/13 as the feeder apparently and he the flamer ended up with a score of 5/11/20.
Post game he continued to trash talk and the only thing he could say was he did 10k more damage then me... I just laughed.
Another game i had a ADC telling me i am trash, but as she was calling me trash the rest of the team was telling me i was a god. Vayne ended up trying to steal my jungle, but i was up to a point that i was invading the enemy's jungle so it didn't matter and we basically won the game as 4v5 since vayne stopped joining team fights to farm jungle. She was trying to prove a point that we needed her and we didn't.
Reason i get flamed and called trash a lot is i make certain choices that people don't agree with and more often then not i end up carrying the game. Just rely on your judgment and if you are not winning games then it is on you.
If you see one of your lanes is in need of help (ignoring the flaming and whatever) it is my opinion you should aid them as much is possible. This doesn't mean that you should keep on ganking (especially because you're ganking against 2 players whom if ahaid are likely quite dangerous), but just being close often enough to assist or just to provide some pressure against the enemy team is enough.
I tend to play ADC more often then other roles and I find that just knowing that a jungler is in close enough range to provide assistance if required it puts enough pressure on the enemy team to farm a bit safer (when i'm behind in lane).
Only if they aren'the SUPER behind.
Sometimes it's more about taking out the enemy laner that's ahead.
It depends. Why is the laner losing?
Is it because they can't CS well? Because they're playing the match up wrong? Because they're dumb and not warding? If it's one of those reasons, then no don't gank for that lane. Even if you get them kill gold, they're not going to use it well. Your time is better spent elsewhere. Wait until the enemy laner is on a killing spree, then bring your entire team along to gank so everyone can share the spree gold.
Are they losing because the enemy jungler made a few nice plays? Do they just need a few levels/cs/gold to hit a power spike? Do they seem hyper competent? Then yeah, go gank that lane and get them back into it!
Her is jungler job description in laning phase solo q: Control objectives, create pressure on the map and control the flow of the game.
U do not have to win lane for your teamates its not your job. But u do have to be aware of game flow, if u see that ganking your top laner will not result in kill or will not be useful because he would still lose his lane just on skill. Then go gank other lanes create pressure on the map in other places. But u have to control the game flow if u just farming while one of your lanes is getting smashed 1 vs 1 then u failed. U have to compensate in some way or form in other places.
If there is still any chance for a come back the and/or the opponent laner is wide open.
Otherwise no.
Depends on how far the lane is behind, and whether or not the gank will allow them to rebound. If they're just plain awful, I won't, because it's just resetting their kill gold for their lane opponent. If they just made a mistake and got behind, then I'll try to help fix that.
Okay, I will be blunt and not apologize, but I won't intend to offend, so bear with me.
Yes, you are very incorrect, the game as it is now, is exceedingly hard to solo carry, and the more members of your team that contribute, the higher your chances of winning. If top laner dies once, its time to gank when he gets back to even out the lane. If enemy ganks mid, return the favor to keep it even.
Yes, its very hard to do, but it results in higher winrates for the most part. The issue with repeatedly ganking lanes that are ahead, is that after the enemy is on a 3 death streak, they lose gold value when you kill them. Plus, a lane that is ahead, will generally stay ahead, so there is no need to keep babysitting them. 20 year olds don't need a babysitter, only the 0-12 year olds. Think of it like that.
Just remember, a team with 1 really fed person with 4 behind teammates vs a team with 5 even players, who has the better chances?
If the enemy laner is up 3 kills on both of you, then you definitely don't want to gank that lane. He will just double kill you both most of the time. It's better to help the other two lanes get ahead at that point.
I'd look at how well the champion scales into late game.
A champion like Malphite or Yorick is always going to be useful, because their ultimates scale incredibly well into the late game. Compared to someone like Riven or Yasou, who do almost nothing late game unless they're incredibly fed. You can afford to let the Yorick struggle a bit, but if a Riven falls behind, then she's a liability the rest of the game.
verry situational if you feel like the 2 of you cant get the kil your wasting your time
if the laner dies 1 time understand hes behind plays like it doesnt let him snowball the 2 of you can take him down
if he dies once and keeps on dieing lane is most likely lost
some junglers r better at helping losing lanes than other for example if my annie mid is losing to azir mid and is 2 kills behind and i cant kil azir but im nid jungle i can stil just go in her lane poke azir and heal annie babysit her a bit
ive had games where my friend mid could carrry and i could carry from jg but ashe kept feeding fiora top lane she was 0-4 where i literetly had to trow away my entire game and baby sit her like a suport until fiora left lane to stop her from feeding but i did cause i knew if she gets anny more fed my mid laner wouldnt be able to deal with her annymore
