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PLEASE! GIVE RIOT A CHANCE!

OmniMoto·2/15/2015, 2:04:22 AM·4 votes·770 views

PLEASE, HEAR ME OUT ON THIS, WE NEED TO GIVE RIOT A CHANCE TO BREATHE.

Imagine you are taking a standardized test, required for your graduation, you need at least a 90% or above to graduate (I understand this is ridiculous, but hear me out). You have 20 problems left, and each problem takes on average 1-3 minutes. Alright, 20 minutes at best, 60 at worst, sounds good, lets do this! Right as you think that, your proctor tells everyone that you only have 7-10 minutes to complete the test. You scramble to try and finish all of the answers, making simple mistakes here and there, none of it entirely your fault, but you are really unsure about those last 20 questions when you barely fill in the last bubble when the proctor tells you to stop.

Hopefully you have caught on to my point here. In this scenario you are signifying Riot, the questions symbolize the main problems that there are in league (I understand there is more, but I ain't counting). The Proctor represents us, the players, and the time to complete the test, well, the time that we give Riot to make a change.

Whenever I jump on this site, at least 95% of the posts that I see are A. Complains about a champ that you don't like/ an OP champ (according to us, not Riot), B. Asking Riot questions about things like, "Soooo... What about Taric's Rework?", C. People Ridiculing Riot for making a change that they didn't like. Trust me, I have done these too, I'm not all clean myself, but I am hoping to help us all out (I guess you could say, Iam trying to Everyone. ;) ). We are forcing Riot to keep us happy, we are making them rush, and they don't have the time to think of a good nerf/buff to champions and items, rather, they get one decent idea, and throw it out there. We then Ridicule them for making a bad change, and rush them to fix it ASAP, causing them to make even more mistakes.

Thats my two cents on the subject, we need to give Riot employees time, the more time they have, the better the changes will be, more testing, less bugs, more balanced champs.

Riot needs this, if they don't get it, the game we love will die off, not because of Riot, because of Players rushing their projects.

Edit- I know this might not be in the right forum, but I am unsure where else to put it, this is the best place I thought

17 Comments

Reynard the ƒox2/15/2015, 2:18:10 AM3 votes

The difference is that it's Riot's JOB, their PROFESSION to balance the game in a timely manner. If you were a career test taker, you'd probably not have as much trouble in your metaphor as opposed to a normal student.

Am prepared for downvotes due to unpopular opinion.

BluePolarizer2/15/2015, 2:11:54 AM2 votes

No, the correct analogy is the student's goofing off at test time and suddenly realizes he's filling in Form A and his test says Form B.

Wtf is up with the nerfs to Veigar, Mordekaiser and Xerath? Why are problem champs that have been constantly top picks (Lee Sin) or who became incredibly OP due to buffs and meta shifts (Ahri) not toned down a little? And why are there no buffs for champs that are underplayed, like a buff for Urgot, Poppy, Elise, Kha'Zix, Nocturne and the like?

Some ppl think this might be "omg I'm losing to these champs nerf plz". No, Elise and Kha'Zix used to be godlike, I used to get stomped by them 24/7, yet I never cried for them getting nerfed. Elise and Khazix only made 1 mistake: challenging Lee Sin's dominance. Wait for J4 to get nerfed too, Lee Sin's associates are gonna make sure of it.

And don't think I'm hating on Lee Sin. I don't want Lee Sin to be gutted either.

Retillin2/15/2015, 2:28:30 AM2 votes

Yes and no. But it all boils down to a few things.

Their explanations for a lot of nerf/buffs are flat out confusing. (like this test nerf to Xer for some reason to reduce his stun)
They are spending an UNGODLY amount of time and money to "fix" the jungle. They state "we don't want to buff/nerf any jungle champs until we see how the jungle plays out". Sounds good. Then they nerf some jungle champions (turning Nid into a jungler in this meta with changes) who see small amounts of picks or give whole jungle buffs that directly help the small pool of high mobility champs. And add a jungler who fits the same mold of other top picks. So it comes down to saying one thing, and then just ignoring what they said to change things that make no sense.
When players on the forums point this out (I even visit the PBE forum although I do not have a PBE acount and see the same thing the balance forums say) all we are greeted with is silence. Or talking around the issue (which is worse).

So it's not that the boards are assholes (although there is a good number of them). It's that when we point things out and get nothing back frustration builds. And that leads to negative forum feed back, and that scares off Rioters from the boards, and that leads to more negative forum feed back... You see where this is going.

Serenity Now2/15/2015, 2:59:30 AM2 votes

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PLEASE, HEAR ME OUT ON THIS, WE NEED TO GIVE RIOT A CHANCE TO BREATHE.

This is season 5... five... F I V E !!!

They have a wealth of balancing experience, yet still get it wrong as often as they get it right. Although this season is setting a record for utter crap.

DeadlyQuestion2/15/2015, 4:04:04 AM1 votes

You wanna know why your analogy doesn't work, or even if we don't consider your analogy, why this post doesn't personally make any sense to me? Because while Riot might address some concerns a massive influx of complaints reference, they generally have their own agenda. From what I can tell, you see the forums and feel the pressure as if you were Riot, but in reality Riot doesn't actually have to listen to anyone on the forum. I'm not saying they don't. But they don't have to. People are going to rage regardless of what Riot acknowledges or works on, so if they completely ignore their player base, nothing is actually going to change. We aren't forcing Riot to keep us happy. We rage at Riot as if we expect Riot to wholly be responsible for our happiness, but Riot both knows they aren't responsible for that, nor do they actually care. Yes they want their players happy, I am not implying they don't, but they realize it's impossible to please even most of them. You think the players in your games are toxic? Imagine trying to please those same players with content. It's not easy (I'm even willing to go as far as saying it's not possible).

We aren't making Riot rush, that's probably the stupidest thing you said in this post. And I really don't like to flame or insult, I try to stay polite and tactful, but Riot not only has no reason to rush anything (because there aren't actually consequences for them since not enough people will actually stop playing to affect their profits), but them ignoring and refusing some pretty basic NEEDS for their players (Better servers, more servers, an actual tutorial on how to play the game for newbies, etc) expresses they're absolutely not going to rush anything they decide to focus on or release.

In your analogy, you have have the rolls reversed. Riot isn't the student. Riot is the professor. And just like the professor, without his student base, he doesn't have a job; without a playerbase, Riot falls apart. But the students need their grades; the players need their fix. The test obviously needs to be worked on for the students to get their proper grades, like the game needs to be worked on for players to get a quality experience. So, the students stand around the professor, all shouting at him what they thing is best for the test. The professor sits there mostly quietly, earbuds in to drown out the noise, only removing an earbud to get a snapshot of what some students are shouting, and then revises the test at his leisure. The students start shouting "TIMES UP!!!!" but the professor doesn't stop, he doesn't even twitch, because he doesn't have to listen to anyone in his classroom.

Your post is a nice sentiment that we rely on Riot, they actually are diligent in rolling out updates and attempting to make balance changes regardless of how much we agree or disagree, and that maybe we should try understanding the position they're in when it comes to dealing with this selfish, horrible community. But they factually ignore us more often than they listen. If Riot were so diligent in listening and caring about us, there's no reason for the east cost to still be suffering. For noobs to be exposed to a tutorial teaching new players to build item 3075 on Ashe , and other major issues.

I am not claiming Riot is completely incompetent, but they aren't in very much need of some slack, because they possess all the slack to give in the first place. You have a big heart, we get it, but it's only going to get you hurt if you give any of your expectations to Riot.