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What champion would be good with the new Klepto?

DalekZec·10/22/2019, 9:38:13 PM·2 votes·6,295 views

As you probably already know, riot is reworking (or did rework) Klepto. Which basically does this: Periodically grants a single use of another random keystone. cooldown after using is 6 seconds (8 if you're ranged) and when you don't use the keystone given for 2 minutes, it will change to another (won't reroll when in combat). Meaning you can get a free Summon Aery, Arcane Comet, Phase Rush, Electrocute, Predator, Hail of Blades, Press the Attack, Fleet Footwork, Conqueror, Lethal Tempo, Glacial Augment, Unsealed Spellbook, Grasp of Undying, Aftershock, and Guardian.

The only rune that won't be included is Dark Harvest. I don't know if it's the only one that won't be included but that's as far as i can say.

I don't know what to say about this, but it's probably the most RNG thing I have ever seen, even more than TFT. Get good keystones, and you'll be an overloaded mess in laning phase. Get useless keystones and you'll have a hell of a time in laning phase.

What do you think of this? Edit: So if this rework is a bad idea to an extent that it's literally useless, it would be very unwise for riot to even release it. I myself don't even think it's a good idea.

51 Comments

dolce de leche10/23/2019, 1:39:55 AM4 votes

Honestly this is going to be terrible because legit no champion wants that kind of inconsistency. It's pure cheese only to surprise someone with a comet poke into electrocute all in, and you don't even get to control it. Any champ will be better off just taking their best keystone except maybe singed, but even then it's just hey i randomly get something that doesn't fit me instead of getting one thing that doesn't fit me.

BLACK REALM GOD10/22/2019, 9:46:08 PM2 votes

i dont think anyone would to be honest. I feel like it's going to equate to mid laners stepping into and out of fountain to get what they want for early game and then doing the same, but with a secondary spell for late game.

Radiant Seraph10/23/2019, 2:17:55 AM2 votes

Aftershock is not included though

Darkdemon65310/22/2019, 10:38:19 PM1 votes

It won't be used on anyone. If a champion wants a given keystone, the champion will just take that mastery, not something that gives the mastery a small portion of the time and worse masteries the rest of the time.

meowwow710/22/2019, 10:49:51 PM1 votes

this rework is going to suck because think about it if you don't have any cc and you get aftershock or solo laning and get guardian you have to wait 2 minutes to actually get something

iiGazeii10/22/2019, 10:58:17 PM1 votes

Your list is too long. It's Lethal Tempo, Fleet Footwork, Aery, Comet, Phase Rush, Predator (only if you have boots), Electrocute, Hail of Blades, Grasp of the Undying, Glacial Augment.

Basically any champion that weaves in autos and has a combo that can easily proc Electrocute/Phase Rush can use this rune.

Pantheon will probably be the best user.

Kaisa Lucian Ekko Kindred Akali Jax Kayle Warwick Varus are other champs I want to test it on.

I hope they make it so that you can't roll Aftershock if you have no hard CC. That would make the rune much better.

Galiö10/22/2019, 11:09:00 PM1 votes

I think the best users will be Kayle and Neeko. Maybe Annie.

Keiaga10/22/2019, 11:39:14 PM1 votes

Jack-of-all-trades champions that are very versatile will probably get the most use out of it since they can adjust their playstyle to match whichever keystone they get. Some of the ones that come to mind are Jayce Karma

AlienPrimate10/22/2019, 11:47:22 PM1 votes

I may be trying this on Taric top. He uses every rune in the game at least adequately and uses all of them from precision and resolve well.

Bârd10/23/2019, 2:15:31 AM1 votes

They would need to be a champion that can easily trigger every single keystone, because if you roll a keystone you can't trigger you won't be able to reroll for 2 minutes.

  • They must have hard CC so they can trigger Aftershock.
  • Kayle, Ezreal, and GP can no longer use it.
  • They must be able to trigger Electrocute easily.
  • Again, don't run it on GP.
  • They must be able to AA their target three times to trigger PTA without dying.
  • Don't use it on Zed, Kha, or (again) GP.

That said, if you're playing any champion who can trigger every keystone while not being overly reliant on any one keystone, use this shit.

Which keystone you get is random, but you get a new one every six seconds, which can be absolutely nutty.

Imagine a Hecarim who has access to both Predator and Aftershock.

Mafros10/23/2019, 4:24:15 AM1 votes

Neither Aftershock nor Guardian are included, and the RNG prevents you from picking the same rune too often, so it's not as random as one would imagine.

Interestingly, Kayle should be able to pick it up just fine, though it'd be a far cry to say it's going to be the optimal choice.

Trist mid opop10/23/2019, 7:26:04 AM1 votes

It can be half decent on for example tristana. Pta will prob be better but still.

Sire Hippington10/23/2019, 12:45:56 PM1 votes

some assasins like ekko or talon might like it, they can use about every keystone to some extend and don't hyper synergies with any, so they don't give up to much for that.

I still think it's a bad keystone though, just to much rng. However, i still like the change cause EVERYTHING is better for the game than current klepto.

BLACK REALM GOD10/23/2019, 1:08:40 PM1 votes

let's talk about the positives and negatives of this new "klepto" keystone.

first klepto is an inspiration keystone. that means you cannot use it without first accepting the fact that all you will be able to get for runes is delayed items, healing, and cooldown reduction cap increase. - so no bonus damage or added defenses. all you get with inspiration is basically... free temporary gold.

second klepto will take 7 seconds to cycle between keystones after use. that means you must wait 7 seconds in order to benefit from the ability a second time. this basically limits new klepto to poke champs because not even tanks can last longer than 7 seconds in a straight up fight.

and last... it make absolutely not sense as a keystone for any champion nor does it fit at all with the rest of the runes in its category. don't even get me started on the fact that "klepto" means to steal.

okay now let's talk about the positives.

ezreal can still use it...

and that's it.

xDogMeatx10/23/2019, 2:03:31 PM1 votes

Sounds effing broken looks like darius is one of them who can cheese this.

Modl Ryden l10/27/2019, 5:13:23 PM1 votes

Well, seeing as Conqueror, Fleet Footwork, PTA, Electrocute, DH, HoB, Grasp, Phase Rush, Summon Aery, and Glacial Augment are all effectively on-hit keystones.

I'd say that anyone with Attack Resets or reliant on Basic attacks are prime users of this keystone in particular. Namely melee since Conq, FF, and Glacial Augment, have melee exclusive benefits to them. So they get access to those.

You thought dealing with just Conqueror Jax was bad? Let's say he no longers needs that damage because he's ahead with a Trinity Force on your Kindlegem, well guess what? He's got a chance at sticking on to you with Phase Rush!

Same with Xin, if you thought early game Phase Rush procs were bad, wait until late game and he get's Conqueror procs in teamfights.

Then there's Singed with Summon Aery laning phase, then Glacial Augment casts with GLP and Twin Shadows!

Lethal Sion 201910/22/2019, 9:39:44 PM1 votes

teemo

Tr4shB4NSYST3M10/27/2019, 5:38:52 PM1 votes

Tbh I think its kind of garbage. Most champions have 1 2 or maybe 3 Keystones that synergize well with their kit/play pattern, and with that access to reliable power I don't see any reason for most champs to take this new keystone.

It seems like a pure gimmick, and the only ones who take it are likely to be champs that don't really have a keystone that works will with their kit. And if were looking at high elo/pro play I think we will almost never see it because the value of consistency in higher tiers of play is very important and the RNG/inconsistency aspect of random keystones would be annoying to play around.

BLIGHTBRINGER10/22/2019, 9:43:08 PM1 votes

I was sort of thinking maybe Varus could actually work.. He was always a jack of many trades (Having the ability to focus into multiple playstyles: Poke, On-Hit DPS, Crit, AP).

So him being able to switch between playstyles in terms of Runes could potentially work out. The only issue I see with this is how Kleptomancy would work out in general if certain Playstyles and Runes need to be combined with specific items to work.

boricCentaur110/22/2019, 10:14:36 PM1 votes

None since it's random. Like if you could choose then maybe champions like gnar or fiora.

Most champions cant use every rune. Like the majority of the time you have one keystone that is for a match up since it's the best for that.

Like you have to go through 5 other runes to MAYBE get the one that is good back.

I could be wrong but I think it's 7 seconds you get a new rune meaning it takes 35s to again MAYBE get back to a rune you like. Also it's 7 seconds after the use.

It seems like a troll rune. It's fun but doesn't work.