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The Self-Entitlement of League Players

100HorsePower·12/12/2016, 6:19:38 AM·13 votes·1,615 views

I do have a theory about Riot continually favoring ADC's and other AD based champions over AP when it comes to balance passes and it really comes down to simple business practices.

Your demographic consists of a younger slice of the gaming community who have been brought up in an era where they have continually been told "you're special" despite you being nothing different from anyone else's offspring. As a result, people develop a sense of entitlement.

The problem with the multiplayer gaming community, especially when it comes to PvP, rather then PvE which is almost completely opposite. In PvP games, most people WANT things to be easy. They want to get the most kills in the game and best other players to consider themselves special. ((This explains why there are so many MasterYi mains at low ELO)).

Therefore Riot have somewhat acknowledged this. They know that if they nerfed Vayne or LeeSin and somewhat Yasuo for example, they would cause a MASSIVE outcry in the largest demographic in the game (People who love these champions) and they would lose the potential income since these people also play other champions and Riot continues to shovel skins and cosmetics down people's throats in order to make them cough up cash.

That is what a lot of people fail to understand with Riot, its not YOU that they care about, its your WALLET. They will do what their biggest demographic wants to get the MOST profit and as a result, the game suffers and everyone else suffers because what the hungry whale majority want is NOT usually what is healthier for the game since they have this inbuilt need for instant gratification and feeling special and somehow entitled.

A product of mass capitalism and our time, I'm afraid.

Edit

Adding some further evidence for this theory.

"Back in the 1950's especially here in the United Kingdom (believe the same happened about the USA). People genuinely believed in the "common good" and did more things out of kindness then they would today. They also respect authority and most knew where the line was. Kids today are growing up with the delusion that they are "special" because discipline in schools was seen as child abuse and banned, which handed all the power over to the children, of which a select few learned to manipulate it and accuse people without evidence, destroying that person's life in the process.

Now people are too scared to discipline their children which has lead to an era of self-entitled kids that believe the world owes them something and that they are important in themselves and not just pieces of a greater whole. This drive towards selfishness is why people on this game, just as a tiny example are MOSTLY toxic (not all, since there are always statistical anomalies)."

31 Comments

Stephenizgod12/12/2016, 7:45:10 AM5 votes

and then you realize Yasuo and Lee are getting nerfs/changes soon and Vayne was just nerfed.

BlueBilberry12/12/2016, 7:11:25 AM2 votes

A valid point.

Korillo12/12/2016, 7:22:00 PM2 votes

You know you're getting old when you start blaming those damn kids. Shakes fists

Ralanr12/12/2016, 7:28:02 PM2 votes

I love how people think Riot favors AD or AP whenever the other is strong.

Rock MD12/12/2016, 7:28:21 PM2 votes

What?

They literally just nerfed Vayne and Lee has nerfs on the PBE.

The fuck?

IcyPepper12/12/2016, 9:29:12 PM2 votes

As a result, people develop a sense of entitlement.

I don't know about you, but i've seen this "self-entitlement" long before this generation.

It goes even further before the founding of NA.

Sckullzz12/12/2016, 7:19:53 PM1 votes

Not a bad analysis!

  1. Acknowledging the attitude of Millennials is important because it gets to the issue with attitudes. I doubt it's only with Millennials, it's probably with a large audience not limited to one particular sect of people.

  2. Also acknowledging the higher than normal younger player base because it's free and parents don't have to pay anything for it. The will pull in players that wouldn't be able to play games like WoW and others that have a hefty up front fee or a monthly subscription.

But there are a couple flaws I see.

  1. Riot is a GAMING COMPANY, so of course they want to make money. That isn't a bad thing. Employees at Riot have families to feed and bills to pay.

  2. They actually don't force anyone to buy anything. The game is completely free and all the cosmetics and costumes are OPTIONAL to purchase. And yes, going back to Riot being a gaming company, they want their revenue products to be appealing and desired. They wouldn't make a skin so garbage that no one will want it. That would be bad business.

PermabannedGaren12/13/2016, 7:51:11 AM1 votes

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I do have a theory about Riot continually favoring ADC's and other AD based champions over AP when it comes to balance passes and it really comes down to simple business practices.

The irony of your title is completely lost on you, and that is the real tragedy here.

Your demographic consists of a younger slice of the gaming community who have been brought up in an era where they have continually been told "you're special" despite you being nothing different from anyone else's offspring. As a result, people develop a sense of entitlement.

The great irony is that it's a likely crotchety old fuck who is saying this and insinuating that his generation was better than the current one, or some kid who was brainwashed by a crotchety old fuck into thinking the older generations were better.

The problem with the multiplayer gaming community, especially when it comes to PvP, rather then PvE which is almost completely opposite. In PvP games, most people WANT things to be easy. They want to get the most kills in the game and best other players to consider themselves special. ((This explains why there are so many MasterYi mains at low ELO)).

A lot of unsubstantiated claims here.

Therefore Riot have somewhat acknowledged this. They know that if they nerfed Vayne or LeeSin and somewhat Yasuo for example, they would cause a MASSIVE outcry in the largest demographic in the game (People who love these champions) and they would lose the potential income since these people also play other champions and Riot continues to shovel skins and cosmetics down people's throats in order to make them cough up cash.

So you've picked a champion that has been nerfed, has nerfs on the PBE, and is stated to be likely to be nerfed in the near future?

With Yasuo in particular you have singled out one of the single most nerfed champions in the game as someone who won't be nerfed.

And once again, other than your words, what is there to substantiate what you're saying?

That is what a lot of people fail to understand with Riot, its not YOU that they care about, its your WALLET. They will do what their biggest demographic wants to get the MOST profit and as a result, the game suffers and everyone else suffers because what the hungry whale majority want is NOT usually what is healthier for the game since they have this inbuilt need for instant gratification and feeling special and somehow entitled.

So your entire argument hinges on the premise of AD being plainly better than AP and the game being balanced around this.

Your argument also hinges on AP champions being fundamentally more difficult to play than AD champions.

Statistical data shows us this is not the case, the only place where ADs reign supreme is the ADC role. Mid lane is dominated by AP, support only has AP champions without any real AD champions, the jungle is fairly varied (with Ivern, an AP champion, being the strongest jungler right now) with a preference for AD, and top lane's meta is constantly changing, with who is on top being different all the time, and usually various physical damage and magic damage champions always being viable.

A product of mass capitalism and our time, I'm afraid.

Edit

Adding some further evidence for this theory.

You provided no evidence friend, all you provided was words, which may or may not be true, but you've done nothing to substantiate them. For someone apparently from this superior generation you sure seem baffled by how to provide valid sources for your claims.

"Back in the 1950's especially here in the United Kingdom (believe the same happened about the USA). People genuinely believed in the "common good" and did more things out of kindness then they would today. They also respect authority and most knew where the line was. Kids today are growing up with the delusion that they are "special" because discipline in schools was seen as child abuse and banned, which handed all the power over to the children, of which a select few learned to manipulate it and accuse people without evidence, destroying that person's life in the process.

You can discipline a child without physically striking them, which almost all studies have demonstrated to be both an ineffective and harmful method of disciplining a child.

I'm not going to do the work for you and cite the studies though. Why would I put effort into refuting a post that had no effort put into it? That wouldn't be fair.

But I'm going to do it anyway.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-belkin/spanking-is-wrong_b_1659964.html

The actual studies are cited in the article.

Now people are too scared to discipline their children which has lead to an era of self-entitled kids that believe the world owes them something and that they are important in themselves and not just pieces of a greater whole. This drive towards selfishness is why people on this game, just as a tiny example are MOSTLY toxic (not all, since there are always statistical anomalies)."

Evidence?

You're making a lot of big claims. Claims I doubt you can prove.

I don't give a shit what you believe, and no one else should. Substantiate these claims.

ZT Xperimentor12/12/2016, 9:32:04 PM1 votes

More or less, not to mention the arrogant older players that float around too.

The Sword Saint12/12/2016, 9:53:50 PM1 votes

whale majority

Lol

Big Lincoln12/12/2016, 9:20:34 PM1 votes

an easier and more likely answer is that riot is operated by dummies who don't understand what makes a good moba

TwinkiePro12/12/2016, 9:42:44 AM1 votes

Better capitalism than communism.

Myrmiron12/12/2016, 10:00:03 AM1 votes

I have to disagree and say that Riot doesn't give a flying fuck about my wallet. They just want the money inside it. I know, I know. Epic joke.

http://fs5.directupload.net/images/161206/6ns3tse8.jpg

Denims Wrath66612/12/2016, 10:30:55 AM1 votes

@op first off, fuck you. straight up. now we got that outta the way lemme give you a bit of a theory of mine about generation y as well. when it comes down to it, we were conditioned to try and feel a self enthusiasm for all the people around us and acceptance (besides accepting those dastardly bullies that everyone was so scared about)... given a chance to be ignorant to the ugly truths with a bliss of false individuality when in reality that comes from role models. its a real shocker that we turned out so bad right?

tldr; blame generation x (which i bet alot of riot consists of surprisingly) for the reason generation y sucks. this is why we get so mad when riot doesn't actually give a damn and it makes us as a community extra salty.

Requiemsfire12/12/2016, 10:34:32 AM1 votes

There are nerfs coming for all 3 of those champions. :l

Also that's not evidence, that's just conjecture.