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Oh pardon this low scrub for saying, but preseason......

Personwithhat·10/31/2015, 5:28:51 PM·32 votes·2,377 views

Here's a TL;DR summary for patch notes:

Niche items removed ( Twin Ghosts etc.) and passives shoved into already gold inefficient items (Frost line).

Mage items nerfed stat wise (RIP Zhoniyas), and costs increased too (Cause why not?)

Nearly every fucking item in the game for AD now has either Lifesteal, Crit, or !@#$ BOTH at the same time.(Essence reaver..)

Masteries now have insanely better buffs to AD champs as compared to Casters, that extra AD ratio damage over time, that extra massive Lifesteal on crits....cough yasuo cough

Or heck, even Tryn, now every time he crits he heals! Totally not annoying!

Random damage-reductions thrown the fuck everywhere, tanks are now useless since you can be "tank" with the insane lifesteal, insane damage reduction (I believe you can reach 20%+ ....) burst decreasing (some of damage turned into DOT, so lifesteal more effective) etc........

Assassins nerfed since damage reductions, anyone they cant burst down basically heals all the shit up.

Bruisers buffed, u can now call them "tanks" as they output god-mode damage and heals.

Supports....useless now, more damage-focused supports (only need to buy ONE item to be a "support")- > kill-lane bot (so much fun! -.-)

ADC's are god. They are the new overlords and you can't fucking do shit. Lv.1? Better stats in a 1 v 1 fight than most melee. (and lol Vayne got her 5 AD back XD) late game reach 60%+ lifesteal, 70-90% crit, and 200-300+ AD with more slots left over.

But you can argue that grevious wounds will help....oh yeah, RIP swain, RIP vlad, RIP sustain mages. RIP variety.

ooh and guess what, Tiamat? NO LONGER PASSIVE AOE DAMAGE. SO MUCH FOR SPLIT-PUSHING AND WAVE CLEAR. 10/10 VARIETY HERE.

BUT WAIT! you can switch between TITANIC and RAVENOUS hydra for FREE.......and Titanic STILL has its cleave passive( aoe dmg).....OK THEN.

You know, why not remove mages completely? Heck, fucking 3 ADC's, 1 bruiser jungler, 1 bruiser support Meta. Cause , ya know, mages can't do shit anymore (and most haven't been able to for a while...)

Congratulations. I have to applaud you Riot, you've managed to make the game even MORE adc focused than it was before. I mean, it's not like you......

wait a second......

DRAVEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH PBE???

45 Comments

KONO RUBICK DA10/31/2015, 5:38:40 PM15 votes

this season is ruined

you forgot to mention that adc are getting an early game buff

SlytherinUmbreon10/31/2015, 6:07:19 PM3 votes

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XZJMstwAUz10/31/2015, 9:27:38 PM3 votes

rip squishy mages it was good knowing u

Anidan10/31/2015, 7:57:27 PM3 votes

Normally, I wouldn't but... Says pardon him for saying something, then proceeds to give the majority held opinion.

K.

I'm going to wait until the Preseason actually gets here before I go all gloom and doom mode, because numbers on the preseason are tentative, and the PBE is an absolutely godawful place to measure balance (see: juggernauts and earlier champion releases, notably Zyra).

BluePolarizer10/31/2015, 9:34:54 PM3 votes

Bruisers actually suck now since they can't stick to ADCs, can't outduel them, can't tank them and can't outdamage them. PD+BT means that you can't duel ADCs if you don't 100-0 them, but Merc Scimitar with lifesteal means that you can't 100-0 them either.

item 3072 item 3046 item 3139 item 3035 item 3031 item 3006 Tristana can facetank enemy melees and kill them in 3 crits while remaining full HP.

Rebonack11/1/2015, 12:16:43 AM2 votes

Casters are nerfed!

Casters get a higher CDR cap and a free Luden's Echo passive.

Neeeeeeeerfed!

Dunkrius2g11/1/2015, 1:23:19 AM2 votes

You will get 15% from Warlord's BloodLust IF you crit (which will be easy). then you can get 2% life steal from masteries. You can get 6% from runes. you can get item 2140 which will be 15% for damage dealt. item 3153 item 3072 item 3139 item 3156 will grant life steal.

Lets add em up. 15+15%+10%+20%+10%+10%=88% IF you can get all these items and masteries. With this, you will have 0 crit.

It may sound stupid and it seems like ADC will be OP but you guys just got to wait.

Fisk10/31/2015, 11:03:28 PM2 votes

Lol.... Guys come on... Chill... The changes a. aren't even live yet b. we don't know how strong adc's will actually be c. dude come on some of this stuff isnt even true... Support item changes won't favor damage supports AT ALL. Not even a little bit. Tank supports will be able to stack tank WAY faster, utility supports can rush locket/mikaels/etc without feeling bad about not getting sightstone+support item (seriously most utility supports don't even bother with the support item finished unless your team needs a talisman of ascension). My only issue with the support changes (as a support main) actually is that they took the movement speed off of nomads medallion.

The sightstone options are AWESOME. They are really good for ap supports (who are really bad right now) as you can just go for extreme early gold efficiency+ap on a sightstone. Twin shadows active now being on the support item is great because virtually no one built twin shadows except janna and maybe a couple other ap supports who were brave like karma. The active has always been great and makes the most sense on a support item so this change just is good for ap's overall since their item's active will actually be useful now and they can go sightstone ap if they wanna save some gold instead.

Ravenous hydra and titanic is awesome for champs that wanna be able to do damage early but MUST be a tank late game because they fall off (hello olaf/renekton). Like this is just a really nice QoL change for bruisers who really want damage early but can't because they have to scale into tank. Then, tiamat is freaking annoying right now as it gives fiora/renekton/etc so much early 1v1ing power its dumb. Pushing is virtually unaffected because you almost never use tiamat's active for pushing, its just not for that. The passive of tiamat is unchanged from what I saw so split pushing and wave clear is still great.

Mages have been OP for this whole season. Zhonya crowds the entire defensive item meta, even since its nerf. AP has just been way to efficient overall.

ADC's also are getting lots of stat nerfs AND if you actually look at it AD is a lot harder to stack... Like the highest ad item is mercurial at like 75. So adcs will probably be WEAKER early (attack speed less efficient now and ad harder to stack=very bad early game). On top of that, adc's being better= assassins because of the rock paper scissors between them.

ALSO from masteries, tanks are getting tankier and getting more regen and as compensation, grevious wound is being introduced for ad champions (and grevious wound is nerfed as well, only cuts healing by 40% instead of 50) plus armor pen is weaker now so regen champs will be fine. Seriously, I think there is up to 23% to regen bonuses (don't quote me on that but its something like that, not including new spell vamp masteries either) and add 20% increase from spirit visage and you have pretty much negated the grevious wound.

By the way, the game isn't even adc focused right now, pretty much anyone from a higher elo will tell you that. ADC's are probably the worst they have ever been. Midlane is by far the largest carry role in the game. They impact every lane. Drag control, top lane skirmishes, fights bot lane, map pressure, tower pushing, you name it, mid does it. Sure maybe in a 45 minute game the adc starts to become more important but snowballing and map pressure is mid's job early.

I love the preseason changes and its so sad to see people just dumpstering the changes just because they see some crazy new passives on items and some epic new kits. Sure, it might LOOK OP, hell maybe it will be OP, I'm not sure yet. But at least we will see a less stagnant bot lane meta of safe farm and then fight 5v5 at 8 minutes in because every single lane roamed on you. From what I can tell this should be a very positive meta change. We are gonna see more assassins, probably more combat summs top lane instead of tp because of RH (which means more combat summs across the map since you don't have to deal with getting tp ganked).

We will WITHOUT a doubt see more support and adc diversity. Caster marksman will come back into meta. I get to play with some super good ez mains (who are great to play with in plat if they are good), the snowbally magic damage corki, graves, lucian and even mf probably. You will be able to play supports like janna, sona and nami again with the new masteries/sightstone.

Tl;Dr- The changes are really cool and most likely fairly balanced. Stop d*cking on them before you have even seen them/understand what they are doing. Ps- There aren't any crit+lifesteal items.

Daedalus87110/31/2015, 6:42:44 PM2 votes

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You know, why not remove mages completely? Heck, fucking 3 ADC's, 1 bruiser jungler, 1 bruiser support Meta.

I heard Graves AA's knock back monsters now, sooo...

You know, why not remove mages completely? Heck, fucking 4 ADC's, 1 bruiser support Meta.

ftfy

Ralanr10/31/2015, 6:50:00 PM2 votes

I don't see where casters have problems in the masteries. Most of the buffs to AD also include AP (this includes the armor and magic pen) and the cunning tree allows you to get up to 45% CDR.

ElegantDoge11/1/2015, 12:17:28 PM1 votes

the changes are here since not even a WEEK and you guys are calling it like it's an apocalypse.

You make me sick.

Mr Borg11/1/2015, 1:53:17 AM1 votes

I'm playing in a tournament like two days after the patch comes out. I'm the midlaner and I main control mages. RIP me.

Tavish11/1/2015, 12:07:52 AM1 votes

Honestly, I think there have been a lot of strange choices in the preseason, but assassins will need buffs or ADCs will just be literally too op. Right now, with mages being as weak as they are they are the only counter balance to how crazy AD carries are.

fééd l0rd10/31/2015, 8:06:35 PM1 votes

Nearly every fucking item in the game for AD now has either Lifesteal, Crit, or !@#$ BOTH at the same time.(Essence reaver..)

So ER gives now crit and lifesteal?

Oerba No Naja10/31/2015, 9:23:55 PM1 votes

It s didgusting . im ok with adc being dominating s6 , why not its meta shift after all . but not at the point to nerf tanks and mages to hell and in the same time design items and masteries for adcs being gods .. pls no .

Rustling Bush10/31/2015, 6:07:28 PM1 votes

and people say this season's preseaon sucked w/ the new jungle changes.

HayRoss11/1/2015, 1:56:18 PM1 votes

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