In a game, there was a heated argument between our mid lane, a 
, and our jungle, a 
, on who's role was harder.
What do you think is the hardest? Why?
I personally think Support is the hardest role for the following reasons:
-It's hard to carry games
-Your gold deposit is the ADCs leftovers
-Usually focused on so that way you cant carry the team
-Very limited build options (You have three options: 
, 
, or 
)
jungle is hard if u thought supporting the adc was hard lol jungle has to support every lane
Jungle and Support Definitely. Support has the least amount of gold to spare, harder to carry with them, and people always like to blame them all the time. Jungle is less forgiving now. Next is top lane because of how far away they are from everyone else, if you tp anywhere else you HAVE to get something out of it, otherwise you'll just be set behind. After top is Mid since they need to roam and start snowballing to get others snowballing. Last is ADC, let's be real here, ADC literally has a role specifically made to make sure they don't die. No one is watching the jungler's back.
I would say ADC is the hardest Role. Since the same person may be building the same items as you. ADC's rely on there supports a lot. If you don't have a good support then your probably done for.
But if i had to see which is Harder "Jungle" or "Mid" ill say mid. Really all a jungler does is kill monsters. A mid has to make sure you dodge skillshots and trade even or better than the other.
Now I dont wanna put down supports Junglings like my main and supports my secondary now.. as a support, you only deal with 1 guy for like 15 minutes and chances are you can be NICE with POSITIVE attitude.. and get AWAY WITH IT "was oom" "had to ward" "srry for stealing that kill and people sort of just accept it we had an Thresh with 4 kills with Ezreal having 0 and they just laughed it off SUPPORTS AFTER LANING: you sorta fall into the darkness where nothing you do good or bad gets any attention unless you die excessively or you made a LC$BIGPLAYS!!!
Junglers have to support every lane, with piss poor income, and they cant get away with having no damage either cuz while no one notices supports lack of daamage in lane EVERYONE notices your lack of damage in ganks and calls out ur weak incompetent ass and summoner's rift is HUUUUUGE you have to make a balance between FARMING and TRAVELLING, like wtf.. what other role has that issue???? NO, you cant farm as you travel cuz that's gonna take too long to get to where you are needed(wanted) and someones gonna bitch
you deal with EVERY LANE'S pent up anger Top lane isnt gonna suck and start calling out the support Mid lane is gonna suck and start calling out the support ADC and support when both sucking wont blame each other, they are on this boat together and accept it.. SO THEY BLAME THE JUNGLER LOL
Junglers CANT be that nice guy supports have "oom" jungleres have "ooh" you know whats that??? we are outa fuqing health! that shit happens cuz creeps are on steroids who else deals with that???? "we're too far away" "give us some time" theyre all UNACCEPTABLE
JUNGLERS AFTER LANING: oooh lolololol now then, these fkers will remember ALL THE SHIT that happened during laning phase and call you on beig useless for shit that happened 20 minutes ago!
Here's how things work:
ADC's get baby'ed for the first 15 minutes of the game by supports who struggle to keep them alive but ADC's still act like their job is hard when it's not. And yes because your mechanics do have to be on point to be an ADC you do have some challenges but I'm sorry playing that role is not that hard.
Supports are typically people who like being helpful, so when they have to save their ADC's ass every 10 seconds they take that as part of their job and they assume their role is easy when it's actually very hard. You essentially have to control 2 enemy champions, take the skillshots so your ADC doesn't have to. And react to anything your ADC does.
Jungler's are really only there to have fun and or win. It's one of the two, either the jungler is a very serious player who will get very angry if they mess up a play, or if they get counter ganked. Sometimes they will just laugh shit off so it's a mix of a very very hard role due to having to manage all other lanes and your buffs. For some people it just doesn't seem that difficult as long as you can multi task.
Mid's typically have any easy time. There's never really any stress involved unless they get ganked often. But it's usually a role for the more competitive players so they can get stressed if they start losing.
Top lane is easy or hard depending on how you play. If you play a "solo" top lane, which means not bothering to help your team at all and acting as if they don't exists whal you stomp your enemy Mundo into the floor going 21/0. Then it's really easy. But if you play top lane the "team" way. Then you're going to be teleporting all the time, roaming to mid lane for ganks and kills. And trying to manage your own lane at the same time to make sure you don't lose your turret.
That's pretty much the rundown.
In my opinion, Support is typically the hardest role. But most supports don't notice it because they take the role more for the challenge then anything.
Changes based on the game duration. But overall it's jungle.
Early game: Jungle - Gota watch everything Mid - Gota watch a lot near you and be ready for anything Top - Gota watch yourself Support - Gota watch yourself and feed that child to grow into a big strong man/woman ADC - Right click things
Mid game: Mid - Roam well, be ready for everything Jungle - Gota watch everything Support - Secure vision control(not only your job though) Top - Maybe you'll split push, maybe you'll teleport in, maybe you'll roam. No one's really watching either way. Like he's in his own world. ADC - Right click things while avoiding things
Late game: ADC - Right click everything while avoiding everything Jungle/Mid(kind of tied depending on champions) - Objective/kill control Support - Vision wars! Top - Probably useful. Maybe fed. Hopefully a tank.
depends. If your not an assassin or a bruiser, mid lane is hell.
Okay Honestly this comes down to the type of player and what they are good at player. Lets go over each role:
Top- This lane is really easy in terms of game knowledge needed and mechanics required but if you only play mid or adc you learn how to harass but not trade properly. This lane is the most important one to be a good laner in as you can't roam for your kills like mid nor do you have the help of a support. I would still say its the easiest lane to play but its the hardest to carry a game from. Honestly my worst role.
Mid- requires mechanical knowledge to play proficiently and game knowledge to snowball other lanes with roams. However its easy to carry from because of the impact mid has on map control. Win mid lane every game? You will win a lot of games. that isn't assured in top.
Jungle-Easily the most game knowledge based role. You act basically as the shot caller of the team. You dictate when to do drag, baron, and often when towers go down with ganks. However most junglers aren't mechanically intensive and requires little in the way one on one outplaying or even farming skills. I would still say this is the hardest role but very rewarding.
ADC- The exact opposite of the jungle the adc is all about mechanics. Pretty hard to carry from without them. Sure you can say all they do is right-click but if you tried to just right-click and let go you would die a lot. You get focused fed or not. You play the game with a target on your back and more often than not can't solo anyone or anything for most of the game. You also can't build defense to survive a losing lane or you will dig a deeper hole. If your team is behind and can't defend you can't split push like a top or mid because you will die. However you have the damage so if you have one competent player to peel you will destroy towers dragons and teamfights and ultimately the nexus. Honestly this role is a variable difficulty it is the hardest to play with bad teammates or from behind but by far the easiest when things go well.
Supports- Like the adc these guys have variable difficulty. A great support can make a bad adc a great one and a bad support can make a great adc terrible. This effect works for almost everyone in the game. The support more or less makes everything better. If your team has nothing going for it to begin with your thresh hook will just kill everyone. Now everybody doesn't have to win for a support to win but people need to at least understand how to work off you. Supports can also carry with the vision game which requires a lot of game knowledge to really get down as well. This however can be countered by the enemy pretty well.
Also adcs and supports both have to deal with the soloQ lottery in lane where they have to work together which can either make things easier or harder
I would say that adc is the most mechanically difficult role. Only because 1 mistake in positioning and you will get blown up. It is a lot easier if you have a really good support because they can help you kite everyone off of you. This would make support also one of the hardest rolls in the game because you have to keep 5 champs off of your adc, and pray that your adc knows how to kite a little themselves.
Tbh they are all about equal in this game. I would say jungle is slightly harder due to the massive map awareness you need as well as experience with the various matchups. I have seen pro jungler say "my enemy jungler is at this camp now" and they know it from experience and what they see.
Second would probably be support. Your in charge of yourself, your adc, warding and roaming when safe.
Mid/Top/Adc are like tied for easiest. All require some basic map awareness for ganking/tping from top/avoiding as adc.
Jungle because people don't understand that certain junglers don't need to stay in the jungle and farm.
"OMG AMUMU JUST GANKED AT LEVEL 3 WARWICK COME HELP US" "I'm level 4..." "FFS SURRENDER@20 REPORT CRAPPY JUNGLER"
I voted Support, but Jungle is a very close second.
As a former Support Main turned Jungler, I'd rather be responsible for the whole team's rotations and general plan of attack than try to keep a suicidal ADC alive during laning phase.
A Jungler can choose to give up on a lane if the person is unruly or it's a full on lost cause. A Support is responsible for their Carry every second of the game.
Support and Jungle are tied as the hardest roles, because both put up with the team's bitching. But if I had to pick a first, it would be jungling, thanks to the neutral monster changes (Nowadays I get lost in what I am trying to do there :/ )
The rest is pretty similar, but I'd say top is the third hardest, because you live without jungler, its completely matchup and skill based (You guys try winning lane as GP against Pantheon top without jungler. Go on)
Then I'd say its mid, roaming, dragons and warding are still required.
Last is the ADC overlord role, where nothing is your fault, where the jungler usually babysits you, where the support is required to set up all your kills and where you don't even usually buy wards. Not to mention the fact that ADC mechanics aren't even that complex aside from Draven's and maybe Kalista's
Being a jungler is like being the only employee at McDonalds and the fat camp across the street just got out for the week.
ADC is mechanically the hardest role. Jungle is strategically the hardest role. All roles have different parts that make them difficult and are in that sense not comparable.
I voted solo top, I'm not entirely sure, but it seems to me that it requires a lot of trial and error, because top laners tend to be melee, and they're also solo. When I go bot lane I know I'm not alone in case I fail, and I can count on the fact that focusing one of them after landing cc is going to be good outcome. If I go mid lane the champs I tend to play are ranged so I can rely on the "land cc and poke" tactic if unsure. If I go jungle I just check for a proper build and runes, and ganks are straightforward to know which are likely to succeed or fail.
But when I go top, since generally a melee is encouraged, and ur solo, you now need to know all your matchups, when they can all in you and when they're vulnerable. There's no longer a universal rule, you need to know by heart people's damage and your dmg to them depending on the champ, lvl and gear, and you can only learn it live.
jungle and support are def the hardest roles even though i main top those two are way more complex. Jungle has to know what to do when for every lane and support has to be able to make the plays.
I can do any but jungle. That crap has been beyond me since ever.
I feel like ADC and Supp are the hardest, since there is a lot of coordination involved. It is ridiculously hard to lane without a good support as an ADC, and vice-versa. The two roles are basically dependent on each other, and without one being good, the other completely fails.
It depends on what you're used to really, I main support so it's relatively easy for me, and depending on the champions I can still carry, last ranked game my top and ADC were quite behind but I ended up basically becoming my teams APC, bought double morellos/lichbane on Sona and repeatedly killed the enemy Fizz, to the point where his team was raging at him after the game(sorry fish). top and jungle are hard to carry from because I'm not familiar with the roles.
I kind of feel bad because i play Kat and Fizz which are OP as crap, and im saying "Jungling is Tough". Forget all the replies i sent to everyone for me jungle is definitely harder.
TOLD YOU FISHY
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I have to say that both Support and Junglers are the toughest roles. You usually get the least amount of kills, gold and levels. If something goes wrong it is always one of the two roles fault, so pretty much the roles that are the most supportive, are the ones which are the hardest.
Jungle because it's too hard on most jungle champs, and even the top jungle champs can get behind if they don't make big plays and get more kills early on. As support I can be behind on most support champs and do fine.
Mid is the easiest since you just have to not die. Your only job is to not die early. And you have team mates all around you for support. ADC is second easiest because you also just to not die, but there's more pressure to do more than hug the turret. Top is third since you have to make sure to help the team while not being away from top so long that you lose a tower. Hopefully they don't need you for dragon. At least you won't get blamed for anything unless you feed. Support is 4th easiest because unless you play a tanky support, the enemy team will see you as a free kill at all times if your ADC is sucking.
To learn: jungle.
To excel in mechanically: ADC.
Jungle: There are nine retards in your game that will hate your guts no matter what you do. Jungle camps are on steroids and winning vs them is harder than beating a Mammoth as a Tosa in Tokyo Jungle. You have to ward, learn how to smite, change your upgrade depending on your situation (like old Viktor) and there is Shaco and Lee Sin to deal with.
Support: There is one retard in your team that will hate you for anything you miss, while all he does is either going too aggressively and dying, or farming while you go 1v2. Occasionally, said retard is actually a good player, so that might chill you out a bit. You have to ward, land skill-shots, protect a retard all day, mute said retard when he dashes offensively instead of defensively and blames you for dying, and you have to put up with Blitz/Leona/Thresh in lane.
Top Lane: There is one retard on the enemy team. That's it. Match up is everything. Jungler won't give a damn about you due to how irrelevant top lane usually is compared to the other flashy lanes. If you go Tryndamere vs Teemo, you lose and that's it. If you go GP vs Panth, you lose. If you go anything melee vs Vayne or Kalista, you might as well just go support and help your jungler. You have to lane vs Fiora and Teemo, so I guess that is pretty annoying as well. Not to mention getting kited to death most of the times.
Mid Lane: Immobile mage: You have to deal with the broken mobility creep enforced in the meta. You are part of a weakened race that for some reason, still uses mana, while the enemy Yasuo/Zed spams his crap without any backlash. You are usually the first to get ganked due to your mobility, and if you are skill-shot reliant then my condolences because you are wasting mana in 6/10 of your skillshots at least. I guess it is difficult if you are against enemies with complete upper hand on you, plus relying on a scumbag Lee Sin that for some reason always keeps blue to himself in a few games also ruins it a little.
Mid Lane: Mobile assassin: You feel like you outplay nearly anything that moves, you are nearly impossible to gank, and you have some sort of toxic mobility that I, as a salty former Veigar main, completely despise (I don't see any 0.75 delay on blinks, Riot!). Nowadays, waveclear isn't your weakness anymore as you can do it like most mages, but point-and-click CC is, which is the reason why Riot is giving "counterplay" to so many champions. Lets hope Annie and Taric survive your genocides. I guess you have to deal with Zhonya's and disengage comps (and I hate those too). I don't give you bonus credits for match-ups because you are the most annoying thing to go against in mid lane.
ADC: According to you, there is another retard that doesn't ward, peel or CC anything, and so it is his fault that you are 0/4. You right click minions and pretend Vayne is the hardest champion in the game (yeah I know who you are). You might also think kiting an Udyr with Kalista is, for whatever illusion you have, a challenge. When you do decide to fight, first you have a snack, eating a Thresh hook in the face and getting a couple of Corki's auto-attacks in the face. In teamfights, your skill-cap is now highly increased (even I admit that), but taking in account tanks blow up so easily, I still think that lifestealing off the closest target is by no means the hardest thing in the game. Also, you are very likely to think every kill belongs to you and duo often and blame the jungler for not camping your lane and getting CS himself.
Jungle wins, Support comes in second, the rest is pretty much the same.
Jungle cause you have to help every lane when they all wont shut up while making sure the enemys didnt take your jungle and as a yi or xin zhao you have to get sated then your team yells for ganks
I think jungle ties with midlane. Why?
While the Jungle needs to manage the jungle, the Midlane has a more direct form of danger in an enemy laner that will consistantly be there to make your life more difficult. You need to not only keep up in farm you need to try to deny them as much farm as possible and take out the most important turret lane while defending the most important lane. The only time the enemy laner is absent from that is when they are dead or helping another lane. As a mid laner, you are just as responsible to help out your other lanes and the jungle when they need it as well as winning your lane.
Likewise the jungle needs to ensure that they control the jungle, which while not as direct with the danger, they don't get allied minions to help them. They also need to gank all the lanes, and secure the most important buffs. They, along with the mid lane, need to be the biggest team player and the biggest warder outside of the support, but unlike the support, they have a more direct impact on which way the game swings, whereas the support gets 1 objective: help the ADC acheive lategame.
From season 1 to 3: Support Season 4 onwards: Jungle
Jungling for sure. If we are talking about mechanical difficulty, perhaps adc, maybe mid sometimes. Jungling is hard because not only do you have to manage your camps and the big buffs, you have to do shot calling. You have to gank, to baby lanes that are falling behind, to deal with a minimal gold income, and to deal with your teammates blaming you for mishaps such as a missmite, not giving the 2 kills to the god vayne down bot, etc. You need to know basically any champion, and how to deal with them. When is the right time to go for a drag, push a tower, gank a lane. Its difficult to be everywhere at once, and to coordinate yourself with the people that try to 1v5 and get that pentakill thats going to be on Ifunzio. All in all, stategic and tactical difficulty, and sometimes mechanical difficulty goes to jungler, esp in higher elos such as plat+.
Katarina in Mid is a task easier than sin.
Jungle is the HARDEST role. A lane falls? Guess who takes the blame. Killed by creeps through a mishap? Let the heckling begin. No, Top, I won't gank a lane because you're failing the Early Game. No, Bot, I won't gank a lane because you're failing the Early Game. No, MId, I won't gank a lane because you're failing the Early Game.
"I'm Lv.3. SHUT UP AND LET ME LEVEL"
