How come opposing team's ranks aren't shown in the loading screen?

SteelStallion·5/16/2015, 5:28:28 PM·69 votes·5,123 views

People just alt tab and search people's names up on lolking to check anyway. Doesn't this just advantage people who bother doing that anyway? This is a minor nitpick but I think it's rather pointless to advantage people who rely on third party websites and platforms to get a slight edge.

46 Comments

Hellioning5/16/2015, 6:25:58 PM32 votes

The idea was that people wouldn't go 'oh I'm laning against a diamond, we're gonna lose gg might as well not even try.'

Considering how much advantage you get by looking up people's ranks on third party websites (close to none) I don't think this is a very important thing to complain about.

Mandang05/16/2015, 10:17:54 PM18 votes

Because they don't want players getting demoralized in the loading screen....

...Which is only a problem if your matchmaker sucks in the first place.

So, gj covering your butt on that one, Riot!

Solidair35/16/2015, 6:31:01 PM10 votes

Your team's ranks aren't shown either, you know. It's an indicator about last season, not the current

Besides, Riot has said that it creates a bad environment. (Your team picking on the one that's the lowest rank, or your lane giving up before you start "they're two ranks higher than me ugh gg")

Yankspanker5/16/2015, 5:31:07 PM9 votes

Something about knowing their ranks taking a negative psychological toll on your team or something.

Why would looking their stats up on a website give you a slight edge?

T RexHasTinyArms5/16/2015, 8:09:29 PM3 votes

I think the biggest thing is that it doesn't really create an advantage to know rank. If I'm in a game w/ you we are at similar MMR so it is a craps shoot as to who is more skilled. The advantage that stuff like carry.gg really gives is knowing rune pages and shit. I don care what your rank is bc we have been playing at the same level recently, but knowing if you're running hp yellows or running armor yellows is a much bigger advantage in terms of knowing how much that sustain start you have really means.

Loken Stoneheart5/17/2015, 10:18:51 AM2 votes

Truth be told, I almost prefer my rank not to be shown at all.

It's super fucking annoying to get things like "you don't deserve your rank" and such and such while playing god-damn normals, either because my teammate saw my border, or my enemy looked me up.

It's the worst. Just the worst.

That being said: It psyches people out (omfg Diamond we can't win), and also encourages heavily targeting either the lowest or highest ranked player. It's rather annoying to be sat on just because the enemy team looked you up and decided to abuse it. Imagine if everybody had instant access to this. I'm of the belief that these third party sites shouldn't even be allowed to offer this type of information-- you shouldn't know what runes/masteries I picked for the match if you can't figure it out yourself by looking at my stats, and you shouldn't magically know how good I supposedly am at the game. That takes part of the skill out of the game to begin with.

Surr20plz5/17/2015, 12:14:21 AM2 votes

The fact that they have to hide the ranks to prevent toxicity speaks to how shitty this community is. They need to recognize that all day everyday.

Qsario5/17/2015, 12:12:56 AM2 votes

I don't think that not showing it does anything useful--we can all look it up and many do. Since everybody who wants to know looks it up anyway, I think they should display all borders. It's pointless not to.

The Ecdysiast5/17/2015, 3:36:45 PM2 votes

I think this needs to be put into the loadscreens. The chances of actually having someone who quits because their opponent is diamond are very low... Considering you'd have to be at least Plat to see a diamond player.

Plus, then you could see who has ribbons and so who would be likely to be a fun /all chat person.

Vistha Kai5/16/2015, 5:32:37 PM2 votes

There is no edge in knowing what rank you enemy had last season. I've seen Challengers without any kind of border.

I also have no idea how it would create (more) toxicity as Rito claimed when they made enemy borders invisible. I never had a situation when somebody was judged because of some rainbow in loading screen. Hell, if somebody wanted to insult others because of their border they can still check them. It's just like with jungle timers.

warpenguin5555/18/2015, 3:35:36 PM1 votes

ya, atleast make it an option to see it. like make it so we can turn it on or off

LegitBacon665/16/2015, 6:57:02 PM1 votes

Showing the rank of other players can be used as BM or sheer negativity from players on the other team or your team because they can use that against you for potentially any argument and it's not something Riot wants, but in my opinion it would be nice to know what people are ranked on my team and the enemy team.

Chief Kebbie5/16/2015, 8:08:09 PM1 votes

So I get not showing the ranks but in SC2 it shows which side is favored to win the match. You don't need to know what everyone's individual rank is, just how the matchmaking system thinks your team measures against the other team. This would correlate to LP. So if your favored to win you don't get a ton of LP, if the other team is favored and you win you get a ton of LP.

Sammystorm5/16/2015, 8:48:50 PM1 votes

They use to back in season 3 (I think) they changed it. If I remember correctly they changed it to stop harassment don't remember exactly anymore been too long.

Señor Karthus5/16/2015, 11:21:49 PM1 votes

Especially when they can just wear their Gold/Platinum/Wtv icon anyways. I think it was a pretty stupid move when they decided to stop showing it.

Treyen5/17/2015, 1:44:43 AM1 votes

Riot want to hide how unfair the matchmaking gets if you win a few games. System designed to keep you down.

Lorinne5/17/2015, 3:00:05 AM1 votes

They do it so people with higher or lower ranks don't get camped. But a lot people have a third party thing that tells them what ranks/masteries/runes their opponents have, so... They just sorta do it 'cos it's how they've been doing it for a while.

EkkoFroffles5/17/2015, 5:01:55 PM1 votes

Rank tells you nothing. MMR doesn't. Win rate doesn't either. In order to get any idea what you're up against, you need to go further than that. What I do is check out my lane opponent's stats with their chosen champion. Like last night, I played my first ranked game in over 2 weeks, and was facing a Tryndamere. When I looked at my in-game info, it said he had a KDA of 6 with the guy. Upon further inspection, however, I saw he'd played a total of **1 ** ranked game with him, telling me he probably got lucky and that I likely had the edge (119 with Garen, 5.07 KDA, 53%). Early on, I probed him for weakness to confirm my suspicion, found I could zone him out of CS with ease as he ran or flashed at the first sign of danger, and bullied him with confidence the entire match, doubling his CS and finishing 3/0/5.

That same match, I mentioned that I hadn't played ranked in 16 days, and our ADC was telling me to play it safe, as if a couple weeks off from ranked means you're rendered useless. She then asked if I was B5, which I answered in the affirmative. This caused her to lament getting stuck with B5s when she's a B3 (B4 with 24 LP, in actuality). I ended the match with the most CS, a perfect KDA, and 3 towers to my name. And after the match, when I just wanted to put her in her place for doubting me, citing the same stats I did in the above paragraph, her response was just "cocky much?" This serves as a good example of how knowing your teammate's ranks, and nothing else, could hurt you more than help you. Clearly we all had approximately the same MMR, as that's how the matchmaking system works, but simply knowing I was B5 caused our ADC to write me off from the start. Riot doesn't want that sort of behavior.

So, yeah, just hop on OP.GG or any of the other sites that serve the same function and research your opponents that way. You'll get much more out of it, and you'll be less likely to misjudge someone based upon a rather meaningless rank.

IziMytTJd75/18/2015, 6:46:14 AM1 votes
arcinex5/16/2015, 5:29:30 PM1 votes

I always thought the opposing team's ranks were shown smh. I don't understand the reasoning behind why it's not shown.