Looking To Transition From Support to Top

atorelle·12/10/2019, 12:45:48 AM·1 votes·2,195 views

any recommendations for champions?

When playing support I mained champions like Lux, Nami, sometimes Thresh, Soraka. I've been trying to learn Rakan and Thresh more lately so I can get better at being aggro since mage supports felt really squishy. I found Poppy support fun, blitzcrank and tank champs fun as well. I wanna be able to carry in future games, since as support I find it difficult.

Any recommendations for carry-heavy and tank top champions that are beginner-friendly? And give your tips to a fellow top rookie. don't worry ranked peoples i'll practice it on pbe i don't wanna ruin your games either

(Ranged or melee welcome) (preferably something other than ) also tips on how to improve and learn trading? I lose lane in the times i do play top, even when I'm against matchups that I'm supposedly good against. Is this a matter of training?

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xHeimtechZX12/10/2019, 2:35:49 AM2 votes

I am a support main that transitioned to top (apparently there's a lot of players I find that are top and support mains, which I find extremely funny because they're almost complete opposite roles). Garen is the best champion for me to transition with. I main Darius , but I'm not very good with him yet. He's not a very easy champion for me and I played him a lot too. It might be because of my support playstyle. So, Darius might not be very easy for you, idk. Darius is also very squishy no matter what I build on him. He requires a lot of positioning and his only sustain is hitting his Q correctly. He has zero mobility. You stay back as Darius during teamfights, otherwise you become a cc magnet and get bursted. Garen 's laning phase isn't really that strong. His mid-late game is insane tho. For laning, you just want to do small skirmishing. You can use your Q on the enemy and then run away. Use your passive (sit back so you can recover your health). You don't have any mana so you can spam abilities. During teamfighting, you can take as much cc as you want if you build tanky. Garen even has a cleanse. Same as laning, if you get low health, just dip out to use your passive. People have been building item 3078 item 3046 on him. Those two items are really good on him especially if you want to split push since he kills minions really quickly. Mordekaiser might work. He's also manaless and he's not that hard to get into (he does have insane combos if you really want to master him). He can be very tanky during teamfights because of his shield and he does a ton of damage. Shen can work. He can be really supportive with his good ults. I've seen good Shens carry games. Nasus should be easy. You just farm all game, you have good sustain with lifesteal and his ult. He can carry games due to his empowered Q. Even if you lose laning phase, it doesn't matter because of your late game. Those are my suggestions anyways. You can disagree on them. Also sorry, I guess I took too long to write this and I don't want to delete my Garen entry xD I don't suggest Darius unless you like him as a champion.

Jamaree12/10/2019, 12:46:57 AM1 votes

Ranged or Melee?

MrFawknSunshine12/10/2019, 12:48:50 AM1 votes

Darius Garen

Linna Excel12/10/2019, 3:02:10 AM1 votes

Find a champ you enjoy maining
Figure out his hard counters
Learn to play 1-2 champs who either counter the counters or at least aren't countered by them.

My recommendations are nasus and garen because both can split push.

Sire Hippington12/10/2019, 3:27:51 PM1 votes

WHY? SAVE YOUR SELF BEFOR IT'S TO LATE!!

Seriously though, toplane is in a horrible state and one of the most misserable experiences this game has to offer, and that comes from a former toplane main that started in Season 0

If you want to transition into a role that can carry games, jungle and mid are what you're looking at.

But if you really want to go to the desolate island of missery that is toplane, you certainly can bring poppy there, especially vs squishy-dashy type of champs like riven, yasuo or irelia she can be really strong. Orn imo is the best toplane tank atm, not the easiest one but neither the hardest, so if you like tanks you should give him a try. If you want carry potential top that isn't that hard to learn, i think trynda and jax are a good start. With sanguin blade, their splitpush gets rather disgusting as long as you avoid getting collapsed on. However, as a support main you should probably have a decent enough read on the macro for that. Toplane lissandra is also a very underated option, she can easily deal with nearly any matchup with her ranged waveclear and good disenage, while also have good all in once the opponent is poked low and a great setup for ganks. She also has alot playmakeing potential to transition a lead onto the map, which is where most other toplaners have alot of trouble if they can't just win through mindless splitpush.

As for toplane tips in general: Since you come from support, i expect your not very experiecned at CSing, so i recommand to practice CSing in the practice tool till it comes naturally, learn how to read minions to anticipate which minions will be focused down first. At some point, you will CS well while beeing brain afk, which means you can put your attention elswhere in lane to see proper openenings for trades/harras or read your opponents intentions to avoid such things. One thing that really helps, especially if the matchup is in your favour, is indentifying which creep your opponent will CS next and then you can position closer to that and just smack him with an AA as soon as he goes for the CS. Especially with grasp, that can be some good harras if you pull it off a couple of times. Another important thing is playing around CDs, but that's the case in every lane.

As for overall tradeing, that's mostly an experience thing. Over time, you will get a feel for how much damage you and your opponent are capable off and mostly at what lvls/items the powerspikes of you/your opponent kick in. Many people get confused when they dominate a matchup for some levels and then suddenly get smashed. The most common spikes for toplaners are tiamat, sheen, phage and the first complete item. Then there is the lvl 3 spike(lvl 2 for some) and obviously lvl 6. One of the best examples for such a spike is Irelia. She synergieses well with sheen, and her ult is a very powerfull spike, so many irelias play on the backfoot early on, and once the get sheen at lvl 6/7 they suddenly all in you 100-0 cause they get a massive power spike from both lvl and item at roughly the same time.