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Meddler or Reav3, Can either of you comment on Evelynn's purpose mid to late game onward?

NyxPyre·10/15/2017, 6:33:31 AM·1 votes·375 views

I am in a little bit of a predicament. I love the Eve rework. I adore it the way her kit functions has completely changed my opinion on being a jungler. I've fallen in love. You guys did a fantastic job with creating/capturing Evelynn's essence and the new lore and how it works in tandem with her appearance is damn near masterful.

All that being said I don't understand Why she is so useless after laning phase. Versus any group ups really. I feel as though something in her kit is eating though her power budget so voraciously that she fails to accomplish her goal as an assassin if the enemy team as any wort of awareness.

I'm not a ranked played yet. I plan on trying my hand next season but I've been playing for almost 5 years. In blind pick and draft its not unheard of that teams are less coordinated, that isn't new to anyone really. Eve can't do her job not only when players have so much time to prepare for her burst because it gives away her position but also because her ult is her only mobility and as a jungler/assassin that is a death sentence in a game where mobility has clasp its hand around the games neck and refused to let go. Not to mention how she has no way of defending herself from early invaders or how she has no kill pressure without her Ultimate. Because of these two aforementioned weaknesses she exerts an astonishingly low amount of map for a champion that is supposedly an assassin.

A lot of her problems stem from her kit: -Size or her detection zone and minions stopping stealth -High cooldown and clunky to use Q -W charge time and location reveal -Weird and out of place speed steroid from her E as well has its short range for a "dash" -An ult that is basically required for killing on a high cooldown

None of these things would be damning on their own but, rolled together on an "assassin" it makes her job disproportionately hard as an "assassin" I don't know how hard it is to both please fans and produce a balanced champion. Its probably not anywhere close to easy and of course there is room for debate on Eve's current effectiveness this close to her just being re-released and with the upcoming runes reforged rework.

I and a lot of Eve players just want some clarification/transparency. What is or how does her assassinate when the enemy team is grouped up.? Because as it stands now, AD and hybrid assassins don't suffer from this issue as severely. They can still get a kill and escape or they could just split push to not waste time.

I love playing Eve. You guys did a fantastic job. I just need some help.

6 Comments

TiltoverEnforcer10/15/2017, 6:52:56 AM1 votes

I've played a good number of games with Eve, and I've found a few things that work pretty well:

For reference, I've played 7 jungle Eve games, and here is a quick overview of my recent match history. I'd say I've done ok (oddly enough, I won on either level 13 or 18).

  1. Build mobility boots. I tried buying sorc shoes for the first few games, but I found my engage potential was practically 0.

  2. Hextech Gunblade is a good second buy. It gives you good damage, sustain, and a ranged slow to help with your engage.

  3. DON'T use your W later on in the game to make picks. This alerts enemies to your presence, and they often can escape or draw their team. Your empowered E + Q + Gunblade + Smite + R is usually enough to kill squishies if you build AP. I find it's better for peeling your backline.

Karn Bishop10/15/2017, 7:07:23 AM1 votes

There is nothing you can do besides wait until runes reforged which will grant you the ability to rune some usability when you cannot team fight.

Dark harvest is great at killing champions mid game and works on towers as well so tower takings not terrible, not great but not terrible.

Secondary tree will focus on enhancing and catching up to equal power levels of others mid game so the free boots enchant and free stop watch will allow better item spikes.

Don't bother using runes to fix her early game or runes to fix her mobility issue like predator, the CD's are so high its not worth the cost vs dark harvest.

ThunderSkelett10/15/2017, 3:13:25 PM1 votes

i am having no Problem with her late game you just have to use her kit right.

DarkSoul199410/15/2017, 3:24:32 PM1 votes

I'm not sure what new Eve is meant to offer. I keep trying to compare her to existing Jungle Assassins like Kha/Elise and can't think of a single reason to pick her over them. She has a weaker early, mid and late game. She has Less ways to get in and out. She has more telegraphed/unreliable CC. She has less Utility.

She's designed to 1-shot someone, hopefully not die, and repeat in another ~40-60 seconds. The worst part is, out of pretty much every other assassin in the game she's balanced around killing someone every time her ult is up - she can't do it with her Basic Abilities unless she's really ahead.

On top of that, she has no versatility. Riot made a shark champion. She can only go in, and as soon as she can no longer 1-shot she's worthless.

For now, her First Q needs to be about 25% longer and her W lock-out time needs to scale down with levels or R rank or something. 2.5 seconds is too long. It needs to get as low as 2 seconds at the very least.