aatrox is not riven
If you think that they are similar give an actual reason besides the 3 use q which have completely different uses and the dash because dashes on e is not a concecpt that is unique to riven
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Aatrox has no Q mobility while Riven gains mobility with her's.
Aatrox is just overall slower yet with larger strikes.
Nobody would claim they aren't similar but old Aatrox was also similar to 
Just with the fact they are all pretty much drain fighters who rely on auto attacks to sustain. Many of them have some form of mobility and a slow. Tryn in particular has a similar revive effect.
Not too many kits resembled Rivens, Fioras or just the combo combatant types overall. This is why this is so refreshing and the first greatsword champ who's more active-ability heavy rather than auto attack heavy.
and the ult being a steroid and the passive being a steroid
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Time for my two cents:
Q is nothing like Riven. Played them both and other than it having 3 parts, it really FEELS and works differently. W is his "chase", I've played 4 games with him now and can say use this as an engage and you'll miss your Q minibox unless you E backwards or are engaging from a decent range. E is essential, it is his only realy mobility and without it hitting all 3 Q's would be almost impossible. Notice the hit boxes get a lower range for each one. That's why he needs E and why it has 2 stacks. R is basically his old R but instead of increasing his AA range and speed, it increases is movement speed and AD. His old passive being on it is so he can choose when it's up.
Riven is a very mobile champion, Aatrox is so sluggish that a phage item AND deadmans will just about get him feeling normal with t2 boots. This means their entire gameplay and builds will be completely different. I can actually see phase rush aatrox being worthwhile, THAT'S how slow he is.
I'd suggest anyone who PLAYS Riven, or even Camille and thinks he is like her to go onto pbe, try him, and you'll learn pretty quickly they are nothing alike.
Is he like the old Aatrox, probably more than you'd think. If you ever tried Triforce Aatrox, he's like that, except you have abilities that will proc it more often and you actually NEED the phage.
Last point for those who were wondering (I've had a few messages asking this), IE isn't really worth it on him. Yes his Q shows as a crit, and yes it applied true damage with IE, but in a game where I did 35k damage to champions, I only got 4k true damage, and that was with rushing it >.<. DD works ok, but you'd have to be against someone pretty immobile. Triforce so far feels the best, though my next game I'll be trying out BC and phase rush, will try to throw an update out soon :)
That's all from me.
Loki :)
whoever keeps downvoting literally everything could you stop it doesnt help discussion
3 cast q's with similar icons
E's with similar icons and both are used during Q
Steroid ultimates that give AD bonus.
Give a reason besides the similarities to say why they're similar
Extra damage on a single hit passive powered by using abilities. Check Triple-cast AoE Q with knockup. Check W that provides hard CC. Check Dash on E. Check Damage steroid duration ultimate. Check Overall kit that will be based around damage and CDR instead of auto attacks. Check.
They are extremely similar. That's not a problem. But it's also entirely true.
And the Q being a knockup
And the Ult increasing range and AD
And W being AoE hard crowd control
And E granting sustain
And P being an auto enhance triggered through abilities (Closer to Galio than anyone else, but much closer to Riven than his previous passive of gaining power the longer a fight goes)
But even without all that, the three-part Q and dash E alone feel an insane amount like Riven with Camille's hitbox mechanic stapled on and the comparison is warranted.
Imagine if Akali rework involved her W creating a shadow clone that stayed in place and auto attacked when Akali did, and Akali could change positions with it by recasting. Then her passive was changed to deal bonus magic damage to low health targets on autos. Then her E spin slowed enemies and reduced her ult cooldown on champion hit.
Totally not just Zed! She deals flat magic damage, not %health physical on her auto, and her clone copies autos, not spells, and E reduces ult's cooldown instead of W's! What do you mean it would just be magic-damage Zed?