full AD = high chance of winning, full ap = autolose

D4M2X0·11/2/2018, 10:49:35 AM·132 votes·24,070 views

AD has so many armor pen items and items that give defence like MAW/GA+more, so full AD comps are the best.

having a full AP comp just means the enemy can stack MR expecialy that there are very few magic pen items. MR items give HP regen+CDR so you just make the enemy more effective just like a tank makes enemy hypercarries more effective. ARMOR DOES ABSOLUTELY FUCK ALL.

start nerfing AD items or give AP the same amount of overloaded shit.

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MorgManBasher11/2/2018, 11:50:22 AM42 votes

item 3194 Full AP? Prepare to do no damage after this items made.

Noor Sakata11/2/2018, 11:45:23 AM29 votes

I hate it when enemies go full ad , and then my team says " please pick AP mid , they have no AP easy win " , then we lose , lmao

Drakath200211/2/2018, 10:52:47 AM27 votes

never before has words been spoken as truthful as these words

preach brother, preach

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Thilmer11/2/2018, 2:28:31 PM17 votes

People keep saying that a full AD team is bad because "you can counter all their damage with armour".

item 3033 item 3036 item 3071 and add some random lethality into the mix. Any AD champion with a decent build has near 50% armour pen; full AD teams literally roll over the enemy team every time I see them.

Armour is a trash stat rigth now, specially compared to magic resistance.

OtterlyLost11/2/2018, 11:59:42 AM10 votes

AP champions have more defensive options than AD ones. What do you mean?

AP Health Items:

item 3151 item 3116 item 3027 item 3152 item 3165

AD Health Items:

item 3071 item 3748 item 3053 item 3022

Two of them are melee only so it isnt even like marksmen, the ranged AD carries, are allowed to build 50% of them. The ranged AP carries, meanwhile, are able to build any of the AP health items they want and it's fine.

AP Armor Items:

item 3157

AD Armor items:

item 3026

Zhonya's can not only be partially built earlier in the game to help with hard match ups but it also gives more AP and more Armor than GA gives in AD or Armor. It also has a shorter CD and CDR.

AP MR Items:

item 3174 item 3102 and if you're really struggling, you can still get: item 3001

AD MR Items:

item 3156

This is probably the first case where AD items are better than AP. But even then, if an AD champion is struggling that bad in lane that he opts for this over a dirk, it hurts him more than an AP champ who gets seekers first. You now have bonus armor against someone who has no armor pen. And for 200 gold cheaper, I might add.

I lit your baby11/2/2018, 11:51:42 AM8 votes

There are no mr items in the game that helps you to survive against magic damage as non-tank hero.

So you are completely wrong my whiny friend.

iDarkWind11/2/2018, 12:04:00 PM5 votes

I love how you guys on boards made it sound like that if your team is Full AD you won't have any problems in the late game. The only items that ADs can use effectivly against armor stackers are: item 3071 item 3035 . One of them needs to be stacked, while the other is either 35% ArmorPen or 25% ArmorPen with grievous wound. Lethality items suck against armor stackers since it denies flat ArmorPen, so basicly one armor item with item 3047 for example, denies the bonus of item 3142 item 3147 item 3814 all together.

On the other hand, as AP users you have got item 3135 item 3165 item 3020 as MagicPen items. Do you want to do the math? All of them are %MagicPen, not flat like lethality is. item 3135 by itself is a AP version of item 3035 and it offers 40% MagicPen by himself. item 3020 offer 18% and item 3165 offers 15%. Hell, even you have nice combos to deal with HP stackers with the combination of DoT mage and item 3151 + item 3116 .

So, you guys can stop spreading lies about this theme. The main problem of full AP comps is the lack of an ADC that will constantly do damage throught his high DPS and sustained damage. The only AP champions equivalent is Azir wich in teamfights is very hard use effectivly while also not being a good pick at the moment.

Overall you guys thinking that ADs can deal better with ArmorStackers than APs do with MagicResistStackers is a lie because you guys have got much more better options in terms of MagicPenetration as I listed above.

So, in conclusion, either if you pick full AD or full AP, you're actually fvcked and you will have to end the game early or expect to deal no damage at all in the late game.

EDIT: Yes, stop telling me item 3020 and item 3165 give Flat MagicPen, I already got the message, my bad on that one. And please, when I'm comparing item 3135 with "Last Whisper" I am obviously refering to the upgrades item 3036 item 3033 , tought it would be obvious.

Mcsquzzy11/2/2018, 4:43:06 PM5 votes

lets just accept that true damage is the greatest pain in the ass and move on

DuskDaUmbreon11/2/2018, 12:28:36 PM4 votes

I mean, sure, if the enemy team is too stupid to buy armor.

Also, you have to note: Most AD champions are squishy DPS champions and assassins. Bring any durable anti-dive champion (Any tank or juggernaut with decent peel/threat would work here) and a mage or assassin, buy armor, and enjoy your easy win.

The only issue is that squishy armor items aren't really good into ADCs. They're much more suited against burst, which, proportionally, AD has less of.

Also, you have to note: full AD can have DPS, burst, and tank. Full AP usually just has burst. They have the entire triangle, while you basically only have one side.